Legal Marijuana: Pa. Voters Say No
A new poll shows that Pennsylvanians are still against legalizing marijuana, but not as much as they used to be.
Pennsylvanians don’t want marijuana legalized, but they favor letting adults use it for medical purposes, that’s according to the latest Franklin & Marshall College Poll.
Poll Results
The poll found that 55 percent of respondents said no to making marijuana legal, but that is down from a 2010 study, where 60 percent said no and a 2006 study where 72 percent said no.
Of those polled, 36 said yes, they support legalizing marijuana, which is up from 33 percent in 2010 and 22 percent in 2006.
When it comes to using marijuana for medical purposes, as recommended by a doctor, 51 percent of those polled strongly favored it, and 31 percent somewhat favored it. On the other side, 13 percent strongly opposed and 3 percent somewhat opposed. The results were not very different from the 2010 and 2006 results.
The Franklin & Marshall College Poll interviewed 622 Pennsylvania voters between January 29 and February 3. The margin of error is reported as plus or minus 3.9 percentage points.
What About Lawmakers?
State Sen. Daylin Leach (D-Montgomery/Delaware) released a statement saying he will introduce a bill this session to legalize marijuana.
“In addition to raising millions of dollars per year from tax revenue, Pennsylvania would save more than $325 million per year by legalizing marijuana. The most conservative estimates say the revenue generated by taxing the sales of marijuana would amount to at least $24 million per year. Legalizing marijuana and taxing its sale could provide a multi-million dollar reoccurring revenue source that our state could tap into for years to come,” Leach said in a release.
Leach said under his bill, marijuana would be treated and regulated similar to alcohol.
What Do You Think?
Do you think marijuana should be legalized? What about for medical purposes? Share your opinions in the comments area below.
JDBroomall
11:39 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Marijuana has many safe and effective medicinal purposes. It's a naturally growing substance on our earth. Legalizing it will help many people get the relief and treatment to pain, suffering, ADD and other forms of illness like cancer. Legalizing it will also create a tax revenue for the state/country to pay down our debt. Legalizing it will also save billions of dollars from a pointless and ineffective "war on drugs" <- LOL
that is an epic failure. Legalizing it will save millions in our judicial system and reduce the overcrowding of jails for "no victim" drug crimes.
"The poll found that 55 percent of respondents said no to making marijuana legal"
At least 55% of people obviously have not studied empirical data confirming all of the above.
Yet..... Big Tobacco companies remain in business and cigarettes remain legal...
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/health_effects/tobacco_related_mortality/
****** More deaths are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined. ******
I don't use nor plan to use it, but legalize it already.
Nabob
12:03 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Yeah, but how many driving under in influence of tobacco related deaths and crashes are there compared to DUI marijuana deaths and crashes
concerned citizen
11:52 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Who voted no on the measure? Senior citizens and church going citizens? How about taking the votes to the streets and i bet it would be 80 yes and 20 no! Those polls dont do anything but waste time and the inevitable relatzation that marjuana will be leagalized eventually! Btw i dont do drugs! But i would say yes to leagalization of majahuana! A big of the doobie brothers and mary jane candy and white castle!
mark wood
12:02 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
we have enough losers. now you want them high?
michael mirra
8:28 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
They're already high. People write about that there will be high drivers, etc. They are already high. The only difference would be that they don't have to associate with the drug culture, & Law enforcement can concentrate on real crime, it would be a boom to the economy with a crop in demand for agriculture, storage, transport, & retail to move the product. The tax alone would be what's needed to make sure the Government doesn't run out of $ & it would cut down on fake pot use, which is poison & only used because the healthy choice is illegal.
I would rather see people deal with shop owners in the Mall, then with drug dealing street thugs. It won't increase the usage. It will make it no longer associated with the underworld & would make the economy skyrocket.
Ryan
9:04 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
This is an idiotic argument, they're getting high anyway so who cares. You don't have to do it just because its legal. I like high people, they're nice and calm and quiet. Best neighbors I ever had were stoners. I prefer them to the angry people we've been getting around here and I'd really love to not have my tax dollars going to fight pot heads while bank robbers and murders get free reign... We spent $100 billion last year fighting the war on drugs, while plenty of other nations where its been legalized managed to lower use and not spend $100 billion on it. So if you ask me legalize it and let them do what they want. If they hurt someone punish them then. Would you want to be punished for a murder or car crash you might commit?
Jay
4:26 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I bet you drink the all mighty alcohol,,,, the legal drug.. A drug impairs and intoxicates.thats alcohol isn't it?
VICTORIA MILLER
4:06 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
high ? not stoned on perscription drugs. have you counted your pills in your medicine cabinet lately......
Kathleen
12:32 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Daylin Leach is a typical Progressive; i.e., willing to sell out our culture and citizens in return for votes and tax revenue.
It is estimated almost half our population ingests some form of mind-altering prescribed drugs (Zoloft, Prozac, etc.) and again almost half use some form of illegal drugs. Now this government and amoral representatives such as Leach want to capture the few remaining citizens who can think clearly by preaching the benefits of marijuana. Legalizing yet another substance will result in a society of zombies willing to follow the dictates of people such as Daylin Leach.
Matt
12:51 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Preaching the benefits? Like killing cancer?
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4
Mr. Wynnewood
1:16 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
LOL Kathleen
Typical Progressive?
Typical "amoral" Progressive???
Frankly, that you frame the argument in such a manner says much more about you than it does about Mr. Leach.
Have it your way - I'm now going to return the Brew Your Own Beer kit I was planning on giving you for Valentines Day
Josh
2:16 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Thank you for a poster child example of ignorance.
Ego_Death
9:50 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
If it was legal the major pharma's would not have all these people on Zoloft and Proac... Another huge industry that wants it to remain illegal. Those types of drugs you mentioned do way more harm then good. They actually change the chemical makeup of the brain. That is how you create zombies... Weed is nothing like that. Again, just because its legal, will you start doing it? Then why do you think other people will?
Matt
12:50 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Amused that many people believe that marijuana being illegal means people aren't getting high. As if alcohol prohibition kept people from drinking. Just resulted in more crime, that's all. But that's a good tradeoff? :-/
Curmudgeon
1:04 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
CHEECH & CHONG FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT. YO DUDE.
SPICOLI FOR GOVENOR!!!
Joey Ismail
1:17 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
No brainer. Leglaize, regulate, tax. It's less harmful than alcohol or tobacco, our laws are asinine.
Sue
2:52 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Joey, legalizing it is one thing, but t least tell the truth about the effects of marijuana. It is not less harmful, it is harmful in different ways. I have young adult children and I am sick of people telling them that it's no big deal...it's not harmful. There was so much outrage that the true effects of cigarette smoking were hidden years ago. It looks like we are repeating history! Give people the facts. Adults can make the choice, but don't tell the young people "It's all good!".
Matt
4:39 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Sue - If you are going to claim that there a harmful effects of cannabis, then please share them. As it stands, Joey's statement is factual. It is less harmful that alcohol or tobacco. Empirical evidence supports the statement.
Jack Minster
6:30 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana studied effects
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana-abuse
An intelligent young person once told me she doesn't worry about weed damaging her brain: "I have so many brain cells that it's only killing off the weak ones; I am merely obeying the process of natural selection." Smart, but lazy.
In this Information Age where many of us compete in business with our brains, we should supply marijuana to all of our competitors and thus decidedly gain an edge. Would I want my surgeon or airline pilot having a brain-load of THC? All other things equal, would I hire Jeff Lebowsky to defend my interests in a courtroom?
Another smart girl recently told me, "When you're drunk, you run red lights. When you're high, you sit at a green light waiting for it to turn green." Again, smart but lazy.
Thus I counter Leach's suggested tax revenue gains against losses from decreased productivity, should the state green light legalization. For those who must think for a living, any impediment means losing one's crisp edge even a day or two after using. Making it as easy to get as liquor - must we start weekly drug-testing our surgeons, bus + taxi drivers, lawyers and other trustees?
I'm not taking a position for or against - not until economists, health insurers, etc have had their chance to study trends in Colorado, recently legalized. Let's crunch the impact data first, Senator Leach.
Matt
6:40 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Jack - You are making the assumption that legalizing cannabis would result in significantly more pot smokers. With such a high rate of illegal use as it is, it's unlikely that cannabis use would actually grow by such an amount, save for medically-prescribed cases. Consequently, it is doubtful that there would be such a drastic social impact while there is plenty of evidence to suggest a rather drastic (and positive) economic impact, as well as an expected decrease in related crime.
Also, marijuana does not kill brain cells. Another well-traveled myth.
http://norml.org/library/health-reports/item/norml-s-marijuana-health-mythology
Ryan
5:01 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Jack you are looking at outdated propaganda based studies, try looking at some studies done outside the US or even whats happened in the dozen or so countries that have legalized it and you'll see a little of the truth. Legalizing it takes the taboo effect away and after a few years use drops dramatically. On top of that it has been proven a number of times to not do permanent damage, if it did permanent brain damage, why in the world would we be using it to treat cancer patients?
Thomas Jefferson
4:37 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Jack, I thought you were a true conservative? Any real conservative would know that drugs are a victimless crime. Why would you want the government to tell you what you can and can't put into your body? It's pretty amazing that Republicans are on board with the War on Drugs, it is just as Big Government as the Welfare State. Come on conservatives, purge those liberal values from the GOP!!
First of all, any controlled substance would be DECRIMINALIZED, not legalized. Just as with alcohol, as long as you within the legal boundaries of acceptable use, it is fine. For example you have to be a certain age, can only buy it certain places, and can't be operating a vehicle.
If a doctor performed surgery or an airline pilot flew a plane while drunk, they would be fired. It would be no different with any decriminalized drugs. Loss of productivity? Well that is just a hoot, I can guarantee you plenty of successful, responsible people go their jobs every day and do excellent work, then come home and use marijuana. If you take a sample of people you know personally, who you believe are upstanding people, one of them smokes pot. Someone else already posted a list, but there are many successful millionaires and billionaires who have smoke or continue to smoke marijuana daily.
Prohibition has already been shown to be an abject failure in this country, and after 50+ years, so has the War on Drugs. End it now!
m e
4:57 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Jack Minster cites flawed data and using his logic we should have a full prohibition again upon Alchohol and prescription medications due to the recent revelations of pharmaceutical giants doctoring their studies results to make the efficiency of many medications higher than a placebo effect. Essentially paying top price for sugar pills, or worse a cocktail of random effects. The most recent revelation that 3/4 of the antibiotics are consumed by the livestock industries shows we have larger issues than a drug 4000 years old and found in the most ancient tombs in the world. I'd say Jack's behind the Times.
PhilM
1:26 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Not only marijuana, but HEMP should be legalized.
The Latin name for hemp is cannabis sativa. Sativa means "useful" in Latin, and was given to only the most resourceful staple crops. Paper was invented from hemp in China over 2,000 years ago and a US Department of Agriculture report, Bulletin No. 404, "Hemp Hurds as a Paper-Making Material," states that a waste product from producing rope, linen, lace and fine paper, this hitherto waste product, the hemp hurd, or the core of the hempstalk, produces more than 4 times more paper than trees per land area cultivated.
The hempseed is higher than any other plant source for protein (though soybeans have more protein, hempseed is more readily usable by people). Hempseed, with 30 percent oil by weight, has an oil that is high in the good cholesterol, GLA, or gamma lineolic acids, and raw hempseed oil can also be used without any modifications to power existing diesel engines. Thousands of new natural food products are being made with hempseed too, everything from chips and pretzels to cheese and milk.
http://www.hemp.org/
PhilM
1:26 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Hemp seed oil can be used as fuel to drive cars and heat homes because Hemp produces biomass, which can be converted into charcoal for electricity, ethanol, methanol and other sources of fuel. Burning biomass for energy, instead of fossil fuels, helps keep the carbon dioxide cycle in balance, and thus helps to stop global warming, instead of contributing to it as the burning of fossil fuels does.
Hemp produces more biomass than any plant practical for farming, substantially more than corn, sugarcane, or kenaf. One acre of hemp can produce 10 tons of biomass every four months of growing season. Hemp fuel is the most cost effective and environmentally friendly reusable energy source on the planet, and could potentially make the U.S. less dependent on foreign petroleum.
Matt
2:02 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Entertaining read related to this:
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/popmech1.htm
PhilM
7:04 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Thanks, Matt.
The take-away from your article:
"However, the connection of hemp as a crop and marijuana seems to be exaggerated. The drug is usually produced from wild hemp or locoweed which can be found on vacant lots and along railroad tracks in every state. If federal regulations can be drawn to protect the public without preventing the legitimate culture of hemp, this new crop can add immeasurably to American agriculture and industry. "
So how's that working out for us?
Matt
7:30 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Many people believe that the reason that "marijuana" was made illegal to begin with was to prevent usage of hemp, and prevent it from encroaching on so many industries. Here we are debating about the psychoactive properties of cannabis and it likely had nothing to do with the original legislation.
VICTORIA MILLER
6:08 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
you forgot rope
monkeySEEmonkeyDO
2:17 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
More kids find it easier to get their hands on marijuana then alcohol. But why? Alcohol is legal, right? It's because the production and sale of alcohol is REGULATED and ENFORCED.
Keeping marijuana into the illegal black market, only allows the gangs/cartels to regulate the plant, and we all know they would sell it to ANYONE, ANY WHERE, at ANYTIME.
Plus, marijuana is far less dangerous then tabacco, alcohol, and even prescription pills that our trusted doctors push on us. Wake up, people!
"No death from overdose of marijuana has been reported." http://www.justice.gov/dea/druginfo/drug_data_sheets/Marijuana.pdf
Josh
2:19 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
There are hundreds of efffective compounds (patents owned by the US Government) from this plant that will be of routine use and non controversial to society, sooner than later.
Walt Priestley
2:25 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
If the govenment can make money from it, it will become legalized.
Matt
2:27 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Unfortunately there's also money in it being illegal. So it has to prove to be MORE profitable legal before we'll see any mass changes.
jimmy wildwood
2:32 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I guess I don't see the difference between allowing an adult to choose to drink alcohol and allowing the same adult to choose to smoke tobacco and/or marijuana? Ultimately the user must be responsible for the resulting behavior/ consequences, I have no interest in smoking anything, but would not object to property tax relief based on legalization.
Pass The Cheetos
3:00 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
uhhh....i don't see the big deal. weed is cool
Hayden Harley
3:00 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Legalize!!!!! Better than alcohol, weed can't kill
you nor can it kill somebody nearly as much as alcohol can, most Americans drink alcohol because they have to work @ jobs that drug test, & a lot of these adults were mostly born in the hippie era, & they turn to alcohol because they need to relieve stress when all they need is a little bit of marijuana & they are stress free... Ntm a lot of car accidents are caused due to drunk driving, marijuana doesn't give you the spins or make you puke, or fuck up driving, unless you're just effing stupid... I believe its very inspiring, it makes you more creative, & makes you actually think straight instead of thinking hecticly, & helps you to focus on making your dreams come true!!! LEGALIZE IT!!!!!!!!!
Sue
3:22 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Hayden, Are you high now?
Mark A.
7:00 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Oh BURN!!!
Burn ONE that is!
Jay
4:44 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Damn right, legalize or outlaw alcohol...
Ryan
5:06 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Hayden is going a little far on this, but I get what is being said. Alcohol does much more damage to the human body than pot possibly can. Think about how many Americans die of alcohol poisoning and liver damage each year, now think about how often you hear about people overdosing on marijuana. You can't because, it is near impossible to O.D. on marijuana. I'm not down for taking drug testing out of jobs if the company cares about having potheads work there, but they are wasting their money honestly. Marijuana has been proven to not be physically addictive and is even a real studied antidepressant at that. Yes its not as safe as say breathing air, but its much safer than lots of other things that are legal in the US, things like alcohol, asprin and a very very long list of drugs that the majority of our countries people are on right this very second. Why not let people make their own choices?
Sue
3:06 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Unless there will be a test, on location, when someone is pulled over, to test if they are high or under the influence, it shouldn't be legal.
Pass The Cheetos
3:16 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
there already is s test....are you high? did you really ask that?
Matt
4:37 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Is there a similar test for Oxycontin?
Ego_Death
9:44 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
They are working on the blood test threshold in Colorado and Washington state now. THe problem is tolerance and how it is fat soluble instead of water soluble like most drugs... therefore stays in your system much longer and can build up in fat cells over prolonged use but a user could not be under the influence.
Pass The Cheetos
3:39 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
i would like to meet hayden. she sounds hot
jkville
4:21 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
the word, marijuana, is a stumbling block in many people's minds, a deliberately deceptive foreign sounding term employed to conjure up fear among the simple minded of some mysterious bogeyman invading their safety, the use of this pejorative term for the proper botanical name, cannabis, introduces a not so subtle bias to the poll's questions, the phrasing of questions always influences the results, it would be interesting to see the results of taking this poll again but substituting the word cannabis for marijuana
Sue
7:27 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Deliberately deceptive....do you mean like "assault weapon"? How would polls turn out if you called them "save your sorry ass weapons"? Yeh, I see what you mean! I think we would see different results. You are onto something!
Matt
7:34 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Sue - Interesting diversion attempt. Actually, the word "Marihuana" was invented when legislation began to illegalize cannabis sativa. It was considered exotic and was used as a scare tactic.
"Assault weapon" is used to describe any weapon created primarily to harm another human being. Are you going to now tell me that assault weapons weren't made to shoot people? And do you also maybe want to relay what it has to do with legalizing marijuana?
Brad
12:21 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Marijuana, loosely translates to "marauding Mexicans", i.e. the Mexican marauders smoked it. That's where the word comes from, BUT it was never mentioned the marauders also swilled cerveza and tequila by the gallon. When some put two and two together in 1937 and realized marijuana was in fact cannabis; they realized they were duped. In this day and age, information (credible, factual, historical) isn't hard to find.............So, why is industrial hemp illegal in the United States, but not in; China (most of Asia), Canada, and a number of other places? Again, the information is out there and easily found.
Ryan
5:10 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Sue you do realize that "assault weapons" are actually the least used firearms in US shooting deaths right? How about the fact that of the roughly 30,000 firearm deaths in the use 17,000 of them are suicides committed with handguns? More than 70% of that 30,000 occur in inner cities with illegally obtained firearms. Just because the news tells you something doesn't make it true, they are only telling you what they think you want to hear so they can sell more ad time. I know it sounds paranoid, but thats how it is. Switzerland has more citizens than the US with guns and far fewer guns deaths, but the other side of the argument would have you believe otherwise by quoting the per capita numbers, since most gun owners here own more guns than a single citizen in Switzerland (They are limited to 3 guns per citizen I believe).
Josh
4:36 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
The headline should read 'Majority of PA residents polled say YES to medicinal marijuana' as this is a fact. Sue, are you high? Joking... There is NOT a reliable test regarding the bioavailability traces of psychoactive ingredients. Not even an agreed upon standard. Why? Well it is a natural substance and human beings process substances differently. It is not possible to set a true standard, only detect it. There is a reason why we are approaching critical mass in the medicinal and legalization fight... It works for many people. I am scared driving in a car with the driver on Lexapro and like, insane compounds. Legal or not. That's bad stuff, it really is.
David Kratz
4:42 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
How can 622 people speak for the whole state. They need to more then that to hold a word.
Jay
4:41 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
You said it,,,,,,, but some naysayer flagged as inappropriate,, probably gets drunk,,, gets their " fix "
derrick
5:10 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I think they should legalize it and make who ever pays for license to pay taxes on was sold. Its not like they stopping it now,they just locking people up making tax payers that's most are smoking it anyway pay for it one way or another. Putting people in jail or paying taxes,its how can we reduce our taxes
TL
5:21 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Have NONE of you watched the movie "Reefer Madness"?
Drugs are bad, mkay? - Mr Mackey
Jay
4:42 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Alcohol is worse but yet look at the bars and usage of it , I'm anti alcohol but pro smoke
Earle Leo Nelson Jr.
5:40 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I had to answer this question once from a phycologist,
Do you ever feel like killing your self or others? He asked me that because I smoked pot and he was my rehab so I could keep my job. Lets look at this shall we. I never did Heroin, Meth, Downers Alcohol or Cocaine wasn't a big thing with me, none of those drugs were something i liked doing. I smoked pot, so I said to him, "Let me ask you a question. Did you ever see on the front page of a newspaper, Man kills family while driving under the influence of Marijuana?" And you know what he said? He said "No I see your point." So don't tell me its worse than Drinking and driving cause I will NEVER believe that and you know It got relieved my Migraine headaches. By the way find the DUI death Marijuana stats. And Reefer Madness was a movie not real in this scenario.By the way I've been drug free for the last 21 years. Cold turkey the same way I did it with Cigarettes. And it doesn't lead to other drugs if you don't want it to.They just want you to believe it does, you can start with any drug and say it leads to other drugs. I had a friend that was 5 years younger than me, he died from Heroin OD, he did start with pot and work his way up he drank then someone hooked him on Heroin.
Earle Leo Nelson Jr.
5:40 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
So certain drugs have no value as a medicinal, But some do open up your minds and allow yourselves to understand what people with glaucoma go through and it helps cancer patients with pain it has many uses it also calms people down, the possibilities are endless.
Itshappeninghappytosay
5:54 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
This stuffs been legal in my house for years.
Molly
6:01 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Yeah weed has THC in it, but you can't kill yourself from smoking too much marijuana. You can kill yourself from drinking too much alcohol. If smoking it makes someone feel good and happy, let them. Ever think they don't have enough dopamine?
J
7:11 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Legal or not, I still get it. The government should totally be making money off me though.
Earle Leo Nelson Jr.
7:19 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Wait a minute 622 polled do not represent millions of Pa voters unless you are voting for president then it doesn't matter how many say yes or no
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Sue
7:46 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Matt...THE POINT is any poll can be manipulated! No diversion.....it's a little thing called an ANALOGY!
Matt
7:54 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Sue - Understood! A poll is just a poll... Unfortunately, the winning side of any vote on legislation of this kind is usually just a result of who successfully manipulated who. Ah well, a conversation for another time.
Lower Saucon Brother
8:14 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
If it's not legal, no one smokes it right? just like alcohol? get real.
Ann Hankins
9:31 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Not a pot smoker myself, nor do I see any reason to make yet another " abusable substance"? readily available to those what feel like buying it. My question....how will making pot legal raise revenue considerably? From what I gather, it's quite simple to grow yourself, why wouldn't I just grow my own? Why would I purchase something that is very likely going to be heavily taxed if for a minimal investment I can grow it right in my basement. Sure go rant about people still buy alcohol, alcohol is not easy to make in your own home. It takes up a fair amount of room and doesnt always turn out drinkable. Oh, but people buy cigarettes! Yes, yet another product that is fairly well impossible to manufacture start to finish in your own home. I've heard for such a long time the Mantra of the potheads of " It'll get the country out of debt!".Well, it is apparently already available in quantity,which tell me SOMEONE is already growing it....are you telling me that you would instead buy it from the Wa Wa as you would a pack of cigarettes when you can go buy what will be a perfectly legal product from someone you've been buying from for years and just bypass the tax?
Ego_Death
9:40 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
You can make your own beer too but that hasn't put a dent in beer sales. Alcohol is pretty easy to make in your home. So you big argument against legalization is because people will grow it themselves? Guess what... a lot already do and there is still a market for those that don't. Besides... its already readily available... why push it to the black market for profits?
free your mind
10:28 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
You would save 300 million a year just by not putting people through the legal system because of a plan. 5x the fine penn state got for jerry sandusky. EVERY YEAR.
m e
5:09 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Why not other vices then? Should women own 60 pairs of shoes? How much makeup do you really need? Shall we put a limit on your purchases or a massive luxury tax on your vices? Anything and everything can be an addiction. You want to see what's really killing Americans en masse, look no further than your TV. Shall we take it away and decide the quantity and quality? If we let that happen, you'd still be watching 9 channels.
Layla James
9:52 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Alcohol is legal and kills how many???? How many pot related deaths can we count?? I'm all for it for medical reasons but give me medical reasons behind alcohol???
Amend Wun
10:16 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
@Ann- ask Amsterdam how many people purchase marijuana instead of growing it themselves. And you're overlooking the obvious savings from reduced incarceration. Why does it not affront those who would call themselves "conservatives" that our government imprisons it's own citizens for using a harmless plant? Why are they not in arms over the cost to the taxpayer? I though smaller, less intrusive government was core to their platform? Legalize. Regulate. Tax. Cease incarceration.
Amend Wun
10:19 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
And like the link Matt posted earlier, growing evidence is beginning to indicate that ingesting cannabis may help fight cancer. Where's the moral outrage?
Rich
4:09 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
No to items that cause: additive behavior in 64% of people, blurry vision, reduced reaction time, and causes the lungs and heart to be injured. There are about two hundred documented substitutes for medical weed. That's just a silly notion that only it gives relief to some cancer patients.
Matt
10:40 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Yeah... silly notion... Otherwise known as "scientific experiment"...
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4
m e
5:22 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
I can't wait til the same mercy you deny is denied to you, karmic really, judge not lest ye be a turd.
Toke-up Charlie
5:46 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
There is an obvious point being overlooked. Like tobacco and other drugs, many people have to pass testing in order to secure and hold jobs in this country. The real controls is now shifting to the corporate world. The "golden rule". If you want to work, keep yourself clean and sober. We won't see a flood of new users rush to buy the stuff because those who already are restricted still won't be able to toke-up. If it wasn't for the fact that I am tested, I would be smoking. It actually helps my mild seasonal depression symptoms. Government is simply acknowledging that they can't control it but the corporate world can. And yes, there are those who will fake the tests, so don't all jump on that now. There will always be rule breakers. But there will only be a shift in control. If you want to work any job at St. Luke's, you have to submit for testing and be 100% tobacco free. This is a trend we will start seeing more and more. Insurance companies don't want to pay for cancer treatments so they are controlling who gets benefits. They will do the same with the rest of the drugs. Big Brother is just watching from a different window now.
free your mind
10:30 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Yea for Amerika! Land of the free! home of the piss test!
simon bloom
7:05 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Legalize marijuana, regulate marijuana, tax marijuana. Help put the Mexican drug cartels out of business. Legal pot would mean no business for them. Eliminate arrests for marijuana possession. This would allow police to focus on more dangerous crimes. It would reduce the cost for locking people up for possession of marijuana. Jails would have less overcrowding. The cost savings for not jailing people for possession could be used for infra structure repair. Bridges, roads etc.
It is not a gateway drug. People who smoke marijuana do not go on to use heroin, meth or other hard drugs. People who smoke marijuana usually stay home, smoke, get hungry and sleepy. Hardly a reason to make it illegal.
Citizen Zero
7:38 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
How about we make alcahol illegal. It is after all a very dangerous substance that has zero positive use. Also how about cars? There are thousands of car accident fatalities every year. The fact that pot is illegal is silly. The ludicrous amount of money spent on keeping drugs out of this country should stop. As far as that goes I say legalize all drugs just to curb the funding of gangs and terrorist orginizations. I don't do drugs and wouldn't even if they were legal but the people that do will whether or not its legalized. And from what I know about druggies they are lazy and would go to the store to buy drugs just out of conveiniance.
Josh
8:30 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Not to be such a downer on a high subject, he he (mockingly stated) but does anyone know anyone with cancer, chronic pain and other horrible conditions where medicinal pot truly does help. It's a huge list of side effects other pain management tools just don't help that pot does in leafy form as of now. More and more it is edible and different compounds such as CBD that is not a 'high' but studied as real medicine. Do people know there are about a dozen publicly traded marihuana companies? I unfortunately know people who have cancer, it has helped them and family members tremendously. Honest to god it does- why put them in the slammer? Why? Why? You are an ignorant fool with zero compassion to do so. It is black & white simple as that. Most above have good points but pls live your own life and don't impose yourself on others over a plant.
tiredoftheviolence
5:00 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I have someone very close to me who has Tourettes Syndrome and ADHD. Tried medicating for the ADHD as a kid, the Tourettes got worse. Treat for the Tourettes, ADHD got worse along with other horrible side affects. Can you imagine the physical pain of involuntary tic some people get? When he got older, he started smoking. No more tics- vocal or physical and he can sit down now and enjoy reading a book every once in a while
Becky
8:35 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
The old saying, "Too much of anything isn't good" should apply here. Too many drinks, too many cigarettes, too many bong hits, too many french fries, too many slices of pizza. The number of "social" pot smokers is HUGE in this state and across the country. I just do NOT understand why the government doesn't get it - legalize it, tax it, regulate it, and our national debt would be just about zero within ten years. Pot CAN be harmful if it becomes a person's crutch on a daily basis. To smoke it on occasion in the privacy of your own home and then say it's harmful is total and complete nonsense. It's a natural substance, it tends to make a person very non-combative, passive, and I cannot say the same for the effects of alcohol. How many tragic vehicle accidents are caused by someone "high" on weed? I've never ONCE read of a case yet every single DAY I read about a drunk driver hurting or killing someone. This is such a ridiculous debate. Legalize it for pete's sake, and take control of it's use. Not legalizing pot is NOT going to decrease it's use and legalizing it is NOT going to increase it's use. Come on people - the arguments against it are so pathetic. Eliminate the obscene national debt with the tax dollars. It's simple math.
Skip Shuda
8:41 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Glad to see a semi-thoughtful debate on this subject. I predict that PA will witness the:
a) savings in reduced criminal procedures, and
b) increases in revenues
from Washington and Colorado. Unfortunately, I fear that given the resistant, traditional thinking of the majority of our state's population, we won't take advantage of these savings until over half the country has eliminated prohibition. As Ani Defranco says, "We are locking our sons and daughters in cages." The USA has nearly 25% of the world's prison population with less than 5% of the world's population. Something isn't right, people.
Ego_Death
9:13 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Legalize all drugs. Gov't has no right to dictate what I can and cannot put in my body in my own home. Socialize it and treat it like the healtcare issue it really is instead of a criminality issue. You want to stop gun violence? The #1 way to reduce gun violence would be to legalize all drugs. Stop the funding of the cartels, the gang turf wars and drive by shootings, dealers ripping off other dealers, funding of terrorism through heroin sales. The list goes on and on. Then some say everyone will be whacked out on drugs... I completely disagree... are you going to start smoking crack or shooting H just because its legal? or is the reason you do not do drugs no because they are illegal? Prohibition does not work. We can't even keep drugs out of our prisons which is a controlled, dictatorship closed society, how in the heck do you think you are going to keep them out of a supposedly free society? Its time for a real solution to the drug problem. Obviously its not working now. I would like to hear a few good arguments why they should be illegal besides its "bad" for you... Let people make up their own mind and half the things that the gov't said is bad for you is BS.... I am still awaiting those flashbacks from all the LSD I took when on dead tour that the gov't promised would happen to me.. unfortunately that hasn't happened yet, nor did I get chromosome damage.
Smedley
9:28 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
All polls are push polls. This poll is no more reliable than the ones you hear during the election season. I would like to see the mexican drug cartels put out of business.
Hemp does have many uses. Take Cotton. Requires tons of water, pesticides, and fertilizer. Hemp - grows like a weed without much irrigation, fertilizer, or pesticides. The cotton industry doesn't want to legalize hemp. Nor does the alcohol industry.
PennState
9:32 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I say Yes!
B. Strong
9:34 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
People will NEVER be truely happy until they start putting God's will ahead of their own selfish desires. Look at Charlie Sheen. That is what drug abuse looks like (messed-up Loserville). If it were legalized there'd be more and more of him in the world. Donald Trump NEVER tried alcohol, cigarettes or drugs. He's smart and successful. You may not like his beliefs but he is on the top of his game.
I_Love_Delco!
9:57 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
God made marijuana. He did not make capitalism.
Nazaretti
10:07 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
But did God make Donald Trump? The mind reels!
Jay
4:33 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Did he make alcohol? Americans "live" by 21-get your fix
Earle Leo Nelson Jr.
12:11 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Don't monks make their own Beer? I rest my case. No pun intended.
Stel
8:23 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Charlie Sheen is what happens when you abuse hard drugs like cocaine and alcohol. Yes, I said alcohol. If you think that marijuana is in this class of drugs you are yet another victim of the primarily government propaganda that plagued us throughout the "drug war". Yes anything can be abused, even pot in a tiny minority of users. But that abuser will be FAR better off than abuser of alcohol, cocaine, or nicotine.
Due to marijuana prohibition, self-righteous lawmakers have caused the deaths of countless people involved on all sides of the "war", including law enforcement and bystanders, they have wasted 100's of billions of our dollars, invaded our civil liberties, helped fuel tremendous multinational criminal networks, and have generated a public mistrust and disdain for our legal system. Don't be fooled, the overwhelming majority of problems associated with marijuana are a result of it's prohibition, just as it was with alcohol prohibition.
Marijuana prohibition is truly a case of the "cure" being worse than the "disease". Marijuana must be legalized, taxed and regulated similar to alcohol before more damage is done. Let's end marijuana prohibition now.
Stel
8:30 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Trump argued in 1990 that the only way to win the War on Drugs was to legalize drugs and use the tax revenue to fund drug education programs. As he put it, "You have to take the profit away from these drug czars."
btw, here are some famous pot smokers:
Sir Richard Branson (his net worth is far greater than Trump's)
Bill Gates
Steve Jobs
Barack Obama
Tim Lincecum
Michael Phelps
Carl Sagan
Rick Steves
Woody Harrelson
Ted Turner
Montel Williams
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Stephen King
Michael Bloomberg
Joan Rivers
Thomas Jefferson
6:35 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Everyone brain has receptors that are designed to activate when exposed to THC, which is present in marijuana.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_receptor
Therefore, it is God's will for us to use cannabis! Thank for agreeing with the push for decriminalization, it's good to know that you have seen God's light. Truly he is mighty in his wisdom.
m e
5:29 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Who is stronger, the man who has never left his front step to face temptation or the one who pulls back from the brink of the void? I'd say the one who hides from the devil is not safe or secure in his faith, yet the one who goes to meet him, knows the devil's face ever after and the siren's call falls not so sweetly upon the ear of he who has seen the face rotting beneath. You speak with the innocence of a child, who's never seen the wolf, let alone to cry about one, you wouldn't know it from a fox or raccoon. This drug is a lot older than even alcohol, time tested. Christianity is just a layer upon the older religions, take a look beyond parroting the sentiment. Each Christian holiday really a reflection of pagan worship of the 4 turnings of year. Shall we make all things illegal then? You ask for the Law of Hammurabi, do you wish to see this enacted for all things consumed within our society, for I see the sickness of addiction is present in all things.
Sciguy
9:48 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I think our drug laws do a great job of highlighting the hypocritical nature of our lawmakers. Sure, the president used to smoke weed, but surely the average Joe can't be trusted to use his own judgement on such matters.
Josh
10:07 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
B. Strong, are you bringing the Don into this debate on Patch? That is hilarious! Thank you. We should ban chemicals he spreads around from his hair. Love his reality TV shows, but the Don and this debate? Ha! The facts are what they are. People listed most of the topics. Our state senator is doing a good thing introducing his bill knowing the outcome is hopeless because of 'toothless' middle PA. Take away the meth labs and oxy's and see what happens. How about all the starving children? Don't we have real problems in our state? Aren't we missing millions of revenue from pot already bought, sold, traded, grown in PA? Can we have a heart and help patients, families and everyday normal people. Help fund: Education. Poverty. Jails. Roads. Jobs. Mental illness. Lets be done with it and gosh forbid get real. How much revenue would Hemp bring our farmers? Land value? Re-Forest? Manufacturing jobs? This debate is over. Regulate and tax, no more BS. We lived in CA for 7 years. Even that system is not abused like they say in press reports. It just is not. Will never be. CA has a surplus of $ ! It really works. Get real people. Thanks senator. There is hope....
Ryan
10:18 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Josh you bring up a great point, but we have seen our Governor doesn't care about our states income. If he did, he wouldn't be trying to sell out our liquor industry, which is one of our only real sources of income as it stands at the moment. He would rather get rich and corrupt our state then think about whats best for us. Kind of the way he did when he helped cover up the Penn. State scandal, which he is currently being investigated for.
I'd like other readers to think about where our state is going to get the tax revenue it loses if Corbetts plan goes through and alcohol goes privatized. It's going to come out of our pockets, thats where. Right now we're looking at 45 more years of yearly toll hikes to pay for Septa and some of the worst roads in the nation, yet he wants to privatize liquor instead of SEPTA... Take a look at what has happened in every state that privatized their public transit. Boston for example went this route and now you can travel anywhere in the Boston for around $1 or $2 and they still manage to make a profit. Here we're talking about upwards of $15 for a round trip ticket to the city and back, but they manage to lose money from the state.... Corbett is the problem I'm most concerned about.
JCC
1:53 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Finally some sense, your points are great!
Lavender Green
10:15 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Most people do not understand the residual effects of the legalizing process, if the government legalized it this would put more money into the government, it would take away a lot of the gun violence it would allow people to use the herb, yes I said herb because it is technically not a drug, for so many things not just smoking it. But people assume when they hear marijuana that its all about the high, its not, it could be a money maker, it can do so much for the economy. But the ignorance in the society pertaining to issues such as this is still mind boggling
JCC
1:51 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I agree! very good points!
Josh
10:59 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Ryan, you bring up just a few of the issues we face for sure. I don't know enough about all of them, I do understand the forever battle over our liquor laws. Friends from other states are floored when they find out they can't buy wine or beer at the market. I believe the number one financial contributor to state politicians are the many organizations supporting local stores that sell six packs at 15/20 a pop. Thus the great brewing revolution of our day. I don't drink, I don't smoke, I do enjoy going out with my friends and family to a small batch brewer, like Tired Hands in Ardmore or even the Iron Hill big guys now. SEPTA is an issue, but I think they are turning it around, right? As to this issue PA will be left in the dust as all other surrounding states roll in money generated from MJ/hemp. Then we might have a shot electing a better gov for social causes/ yes Corbett was absolutely involved in PSU cover. Gross and ugly, but no perp walk in my opinion.
Ryan
12:45 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I've heard some say Septa is turning it around, but thats only because of the last 5 years of toll increases to fund them. They can't survive without millions in tax payer dollars as well as toll money from the turnpike. They instated a plan to raise the tolls on the turn pike every year for the next 45 years to pay for septa and our failing roads as I understand it and I'm not okay with that.
I too am not much of a drinker or smoker (just started the electronic cigarette from real cigarettes if that counts), but what worries me about privatizing the liquor industry in PA, is that he isn't proposing to privatize it like other states. He wants to charge an arm and leg for a liquor license right out of the gate, so most won't be able to afford it anymore. The numbers I read were close to $2 Million for a liquor license, which seems outrageous to me. I'm not as well informed on the subject as I'm sure I could be and I really wish that we could open up a liquor industry to more businesses, but right now his plan feels like its more about profits for a small group than it is for our entire state.
DJ
12:34 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I know this has been said but to take a poll of only 622 people is absolutely absurd. Not only is this lazy but now it is going to be used as a discussion point for legitimacy. When this statistically is a completely invalid study.
Any any word on how they determined the 3.9 margin of error points? Nope.
Jay
4:30 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Poll the whole state, not one college,, like an election
Amend Wun
12:57 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I'm sure if you took a poll in the southern states back in the 6os, you'd have found tons of support for segregation. Didn't make it the right thing to do.
Earle Leo Nelson Jr.
12:14 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
And you would have found tons of support for desegregation too.
JCC
1:48 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
It should be legal. It is no worse then alcohol. We spend too much time and money on law enforcement to keep it illegal. I would rather spend their time on real crime. And we are clearly losing the war on drugs; the effort should be spent on public safety and education. Drug addicts deserve resources to “kick the habit”, not be in jail unless they committed a crime while they were high. It would be a good tax base, and I would feel safer knowing that people knew where their drugs came from instead of leaving it to chance and risking "bad" batches from some dirty drug lab. As far as driving while under the influence, well, people shouldn't be driving impaired, period, regardless of their poison!
Josh
2:08 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Ryan - here's the deal with liquor, the correct question to ask (at risk to your well being perhaps) is WHO is behind the liquor law changes. I don't know all the details but I DO know it is being handled by the inner circle of the inner circle and there are billions on the line. SEPTA- just don't know enough about it.
JCC- DUI is an issue not just because one shouldn't do it to begin with, but for pot there is no standard to base the intoxication levels, unlike alcohol. Any non obvious MJ DUI can be thrown out of court unless the person is blowing smoke at the check point... Which per some folks posting is apparently how stupid dirty hippies are. I worry more about those invincible teens and younger drivers as well as the angry drunk old people, too :) I also think one must then lump in 50% plus of society on Ritalin , head meds, so forth if you lump in pot. Either way we have a senate majority not changing anytime soon and we are all thus thinking as criminals. Isn't there a law that negates useless laws?
Jay
4:28 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
That college poll is b.s. how about a statewide poll, there will be a lot in favor
Anon
4:30 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Like the prohibition on alcohol in the 1930's, this "War on Drugs" is failing. People continue to seek and use them. Many users (not all) are nonviolent. There are too many nonviolent users taking up space in prisons better occupied by violent offenders. I say, legalize and tax. We already have a State Store system (for now) it could be marketed there.
Ryan
5:22 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
The only thing we've proven solidly in the US is that banning anything people won't will never work. We waste billions upon billions fighting to make things illegal and get no where. In fact the war on drugs has ruined more lives than it could ever possibly help. By keeping marijuana illegal, the government is saying that everyone who has ever tried marijuana should be in jail and this is a frightening thought, since studies show that more than 70% of Americans have tried Marijuana at least once in their life. I'm not exactly all about marijuana, but I'm damn well going to defend something that hurts our nation as much as this ban has. Our country imprisons more of it citizens than any other nation in the world including communist countries like China. Does that not frighten anyone else? More than 50% of those prisoners are non violent offenders when they went in, but when they come out they are hardened criminals who more often than not will never be able to have a good career again and will end up going back to prison. So in 2009 (4 years ago and god knows how many new prisoners ago) we had roughly 2.5 million citizens in prisons across the nation with a rough average cost of $28,284 a year, which works out to roughly $70.7 Billion, yes billion dollars. We also spent $90 Billion fighting the war on drugs that year, we're talking about over $160 billion dollars in one year. Granted they aren't all non violent, but more than half of them were at one point...
VICTORIA MILLER
6:37 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
pa voters vote?
the only thing i saw on the ballot was the people to vote for if their was any thing else on the ballet i did not see it. i did not vote on legalizing ..i will vote here and now.
i vote Yes to legalizing marijuana......
Earle Leo Nelson Jr.
12:15 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Wasn't a vote it was a poll. They wont let us vote on it cause were smarter than them.
Anthony Wayne
10:56 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
What the feds want is to take your money and your civil rights. The war on drugs and the war on terror are perfect excuses for them to do both. Revenue is no incentive for those that print the fiat money. They relish kicking in your door at three a.m. and flying drones overhead to spy on your backyard and bedroom. Our very reason for being is war. Drugs, terror, oil, it makes no difference so long as we feed the military industrial complex whose dollars grease the election machine. Forget the rule of law, its about money and control, power for the tyrants, and raising sheep to turn in their guns. It's all about war no matter the flavor.
What a disgrace our once great nation has become.
free your mind
10:49 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
100% correct
Cadillac Man
7:57 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Do a state wide poll... Bet ya 80 for, 20 not... And the I's have it. Just legalize it, make money off it and enjoy it... Simple.
Transparent
9:15 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
55 percent of the "voters" are clueless sheep that can not do their own homework and reading. 55 percent of the voters of spoon fed propaganda by Anderson Pooper and Wolf Sh!tzer.
Transparent
9:17 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
"Just legalize it, make money off it and enjoy it... Simple."
^
the problem with that is they are already raking in massive profits with it illegal on the black market, if you think the "good" guys are not involved, think again. Where do you think the big banks cash flow comes from (drug money laundering). Not to mention the Pharmaceutical drug lords will fight this tooth and nail (as they are now).
Matt
10:38 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Indeed. Yes, there's much to profit from legalization, but there's already a lot to profit from it being illegal. You think privatized prisons are excited about letting out all of there nonviolent inmates?
Nick Disabella
10:46 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Im all for marijuana for recreational or just medical. But if it's, going to be for medical. then make it for everyone, adults & children. there is a rise with in children that have autism. The parents say they try everything, and nothing seems to work and or help. unitl they tryed marijuana. then things seemed to be better. here a story for all to watch, & there are few others like this.
http://blog.norml.org/2013/01/29/marijuana-childhood-autism-and-prohibition/
SueM
4:46 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Just another way to drug our children to make things easier for the adults around them. What a joke!
Ryan
4:49 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Giving drugs to children? Even I'm not that liberal... I hate to agree with SueM, but I feel like less drugs and actual parenting/education is probably a better solution. As for kids with autism, they need proper help, not drugs. It's comments like this that make everyone on your side look bad and just fan the flame of the other side. You should not be allowed to have children.
free your mind
5:33 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Sue and Ryan? do you know anyone who has an autistic child? Don't judge until you been there. I have seen this work first hand in a severely autistic child it slows the child down enough to be able to interact with the world around them. Its not a miracle drug but it should be legal.
As for giving a child MORE drugs have no fear, our phama industry is way ahead of you there! Ritalin for every boy who wants to play!
m e
5:36 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
I can understand verbal babbling, but why type and not think? SueM obviously is a drinker or maybe she's the mythical one that will pass thru the eye of the needle. No sins. I live in this county and I've met one saint and you ain't him.
Josh
11:15 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Matt - ironic but synthetic C2 opioid pain meds do not show up on normal screening exams, and are the number one cause of liver disease and deaths from overall MIS - use have become a leading cause if early death, high hospital costs passed on to taxpayers and an epidemic ripping families apart all over the USA. Plus restrictive laws now push the burden of legit use on the patients not criminals. Someone else mentioned autism, having worked with autistic children I am aware of the studies and all I can say is you are correct, but the east coast is decades behind the thought something as radical as compounds from a natural plant just might help medicinally vs a pill of any type shoved down out throats by big pharma. One thing you can do is profit in the stock market knowing this and donate money towards a cure ( or your own family ) as there are MANY ways to 'play' this knowledge in pharmaland philly...
Carol Ann
6:45 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
How many were polled? What was the population, gender, race, age breakdown? The only real way to find out whether or not Pennsylvanians want to end the 75+ year old marijuana prohibition is by asking we vote on it.
In Pennsylvania, we taxpayers cough up more than $325,000,000. a year to arrest, prosecute, and jail street level potheads.
VICTORIA MILLER
7:54 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
there is a young man. he had a job. a car and a apartment...he was 24 or 25 he got caught with weed. lost his job. has a record now. and cannot get another job.
he no longer has a car, no apartment. his father and his friends try to help him. but nobody wants to hire him. and he has been looking very hard for a job.
i vote to legalize .....why is our goverment tortureing. people who drink are not tortured.
Will James
8:36 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
All of you saying keep it illegal, let's look into your fridge. Any beer or wine in there? I thought so. If you want to level the playing field and keep pot illegal, lets bring back prohibition.
Otherwise you are a complete hypocrite.
And no, I don't want my child using drugs, and I don't want to get killed by an impaired driver.
It needs to be reclassified at the very least.
James Rose
9:42 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
All who said no, was George Washingtin dumb? How about Lincoln? They both smoked and had their own feilds!
chuck.mc
10:07 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
It.should 100% be made legal...alcohol is legal and that kills.thousands.of.people every year, also in philadelphia they have methadone clinics all over for people on heroin which is ridiculous.
Josh
11:00 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
So many educated opinions on a large string, unusual. Looks like the senator has struck a nerve. So how does he now promote his bill in the tumbleweeds of middle PA? For it is the true start of our great mid west, right? I hope not. I like to think those people are reasonable and compassionate to vote at the very least for medicinal use. Considering the C2 OxyContin hillbilly heroin problems one would think. Pot does not cause these issues not will it ever cause problems such as those. Cartels do. the black markets do, with crack on the side. But our bill- It will create revenue, safely resolve medical issues ( side effects from harsher compounds) and help our budget BIG-TIME.
Stel
8:57 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
The researchers noted they had some concerns of bias:
"Generally speaking, two sources of error concern researchers most. Non-response bias is created when selected participants either choose not to participate in the survey or are unavailable for interviewing. Response errors are the product of the question and answer process. Surveys that rely on self reported behaviors and attitudes are susceptible to biases related to the way respondents process and respond to survey questions."
I would like to add that this college is based in Lancaster, PA and surveys were conducted in person by interview. For one, people are less likely to admit in person support of something that many still consider taboo. Also, it does not mention where these people were from. I assume they are mostly from the local rural area which does not represent fair sample of the PA public. Conduct the same poll in Philadelphia and I bet you will find the majority support legalization.
Stel
9:07 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
The prohibition of marijuana and everything it encompasses is FAR more detrimental to society than marijuana itself could ever be. Due to marijuana prohibition, self-righteous lawmakers have caused the deaths of countless people involved on all sides of the "war", including law enforcement and bystanders, they have wasted 100's of billions of our dollars, invaded our civil liberties, helped fuel tremendous multinational criminal networks, and have generated a public mistrust and disdain for our legal system, all without any significant reduction in usage or availability.
It is time to put an end to these senseless laws. Legalize and regulate it like alcohol. If enough states legalize we can also force the federal government to change their stance.
Write your public officials and urge them to implement a sensible marijuana policy.
For more info visit:
MPP - The Marijuana Policy Project - http://www.mpp.org/
NORML - National Organization to Reform Marijuana Laws - http://norml.org/
LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition - "Cops say legalize" - http://www.leap.cc/
Colorado's successful "Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol" campaign site - http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/
Duey
12:32 am on Monday, February 25, 2013
hahahah the worst thing that could happen is sheetz would run out of food
Josh
5:13 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Wow can't believe this is still going, that's great. Ryan, I agree with many if your points, nobody wins on style :) , but perhaps you might look into the autism issue some / it will open your mind. I agree 100% less meds and patenting, ESP as a father. However, it is true that there are compounds in the flower that truly DO help kids with NO 'euphoria' - ADHD mid diagnosis and treatment is a larger health issue than weed... Autism is devastating. Peace Love Happiness. Oh, that makes potheads sound like dirty hippies! Oh, isn't that judeo-Christian philosophy?
Ryan
6:04 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
I guess I do need to look into it more, but I think thats something that would need to be heavily researched before its a point pushed on parents of autistic kids. Give kids any drug at all in my mind is a touchy subject and something that should be weighed very carefully. I have ADHD and it was a very serious problem for me as a child, but I was immediately put on a whole slew of drugs to try solve the problem and each of those drugs came with a whole host of side effects I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. So I may be predisposed to dislike the idea of treating kids with drugs so quickly.
SueM
9:29 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Free your mind, my friend's son and my nephew have autism. My nephew is 20. It hasn't been easy for my sister or the rest of our family. You can get off your moral high ground! I am entitled to my opinion.
Ryan
9:41 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Sorry, but you're opinion is fine for you, but you are stating it publicly and fueling the flame of the anti marijuana movement. We really need to focus on one aspect at a time, but by saying our kids should be smoking pot, you're only hindering the cause. Think about the main things people use to argue against the legalization of pot, also think about how medicating kids works please. Doctors are the ones who should be telling us if its a safe drug for children however consumed, I promise smoking isn't the way for kids at the very least. Right now lets focus on getting it legal so it can be properly studied in stead of propagandized further. I realize I was very harsh in my last response, but I'm not happy with this all or nothing notion everyone has, in this step by step fight. Also I had just gotten out of traffic which leaves no one happy.
SueM
10:35 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Ryan, I didn't propose an all or nothing notion. I didn't even state which side of the debate I was on. I don't have an issue with medical uses. I am on the fence otherwise. I didn't like the suggestion regarding pot and autistic kids...that's it. I was not fueling any flame. I thought I was adding to the discussion. Thank you for your apology.
m e
3:57 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
They are not only blocking me from as honest an occupation as cheese monger or wine or alcohol brewer, but they are also restricting the tax dollars the community can collect. We were not born to be parented all our days. I'm 40 years old. I can make my own adult choices regarding my health. I can educate myself.
This comes down to an ancient tradition long upheld, but only recently lost. We see it every 4 years in the Olympics where it sits as a symbol, but has greater meaning. That symbol is the Passing of the Torch. It's more than the Light of Reason. It's the passing of the Old world to the New, to the Young to be build anew.
The old rules need be updated for the modern day, let the Light of Science guide the way. Nothing comes for free, Cannabis will have some health detractions, but so does bacon and I don't want a politician legislating my rights away for my protection. He can mind his own business and I, mine. I'm old enough to see with my own eyes and think with my own mind. Their fear mongering is just whispers of the boogeyman, it only scares children.
Josh
8:25 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
M e - got me confused now - you seem for stopping this never ending wasteful war on pot but its hard to decipher.
Sue- I appreciate and respect your experiences and thoughts. Perhaps you will look into it just a little bit more, ton of literature in the true medical guides. I worked with autism about 18 years ago in the stone ages of treating it, for a pioneering firm that is now sought out, it is unfortunately a program that is so costly it's only a few scholarships per full pay. This is an area all political parties need to unite behind - the study and treatment of autism. If Cana meds help, then why prevent a life from 'blossoming out', a term used by many child autistic oriented profs.
michaellr
5:12 pm on Friday, April 19, 2013
Marijuana by itself; no alcohol, no any other self administered substance added, marijuana by itself is a healing herb, Vaporized, made into food. peanut butter, butter, salad dressing oil, beverages, deserts, All ingested without smoking anything. No carcinogens, just pure THC. Use it if it works for you, I use it to reduce the chronic pain I have suffered these last seven years. Stop blaming the herb for the crimes that are mostly motivated by alcohol, Meth, cocaine, and heroin. Marijuana produces peaceful solutions to life's pains. Study the medicine and then produce an educated decision,with your freedom to choose. Please,do not use some dumb a__ ignorant uneducated cliche, to describe your brilliant uneducated opinion on the issue. The morality of using an herb to bring healing to my body and possibly yours after you study to show yourself approved will be more appreciated. Then if you do not have any need for the medicine marijuana at this time, good, great! Please let me medicate myself with the best medicine I have found for my conditions. Please, I promise I will not show up at the local pharmacy and picket your involvement with drugs you carry out in the little white bag with the paper that lists all the possible bad side effects that I would be totally in fear of taking, and I will stick with my natural, beneficial, peaceful herb, thank you.
Blessings
Michaellr