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Protesters Organize Chick-fil-A Same Sex Kiss Day for Friday

Mike Huckabee has called Wednesday, Aug. 1 "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day" and Protesters have have responded with "Chick-fil-A Same Sex Kiss Day" on Friday, Aug. 3.

 

In response to Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy’s statement against same-sex marriage and reaffirming the company’s stance on the traditional family unit, Mike Huckabee on his Facebook page has called for Wednesday, August 1 for be “Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day.”

According to Huffington Post, Huckabee, on his Facebook page said, “The goal is simple: Let's affirm a business that operates on Christian principles and whose executives are willing to take a stand for the Godly values we espouse by simply showing up and eating at Chick-fil-A on Wednesday, August 1.”

On Monday, LGBT Weekly reported that Philadelphia City Councilman James Kenney sent a letter to the company’s president telling him that Chick-fil-A is not welcome in the City of Brotherly Love.

Kenney also vowed in the letter to introduce a resolution at the next City Council meeting that will condemn the company.

Protesters of Chick-fil-A’s stance on same-sex marriage have organized National Same Sex Kiss Day at Chick-fil-A restaurants on Friday, August 3.

According to Eater.com, the protesters want you to show up to your local Chick-fil-A and make out with someone of the same sex, take photos, and post them to the Chick-fil-A Facebook page.

Related Topics: Chick-Fil-A, Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, Chick-fil-A Same Sex Kiss Day, Dan Cathy, and mike huckabee
Will you be participating in "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day" or "Chick-fil-A Same Sex Kiss Day"? Which viewpoint do you agree with? Tell us in the comments.

Mike Shortall

11:12 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

So much to do about nothing. Anyone who knows anything about Chick-fil-A's corporate philosophy would not be surprised by their position. Heck, they're even CLOSED on Sundays!

The reaction should be very simple. Don't agree? Don't eat there. Let your feet do the talking. If you want to chase them away, it's the perfect solution!

Councilman Kenney response is a social knee-jerk reaction. And not for anything, but isn't his reaction and call for "condemnation" simply a form of religious persecution?!? Penalizing a business for its religious beliefs?

Chick-fil-A never said they would not serve LGBTs, or otherwise discriminate against them. Dan Cathy simply expressed his opinion, consistent with his personal beliefs and corporate philosophy.

If you don't like Chick-fil-A's stance, Eat More Kows!!

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Rachel

11:21 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

This is just childish! I believe everyone has the right to love, kiss and marry who they want and the right to believe what they want. But seriously, we can't decide that we don't like what Chick-Fil-A stands for and act like children. It defeats the purpose...in effect your saying that you have the right to love, kiss, marry who you want, but Chick-Fil-A doesn't have the right to believe what they believe. If you don't like their opinion, don't patronize their restaurant, it's just that simple.

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Jessica

4:22 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Everyone is entitled to express their beliefs but Dan Cathy is not simply expressing an opinion. He is funding organizations that work to deny people equal rights because of their sexual orientation. That IS discrimination. He is using your dollars to deny people equal rights. Would you eat at a restaurant that funded organizations that worked to deny African Americans equal rights?

Dot

12:10 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Mike & Rachel, exactly.

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John Q. Public

12:42 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

With their willing accomplices in the media - couldn't do it without them - the extreme activists are on a mission. They are intent on either destroying, or rendering harmless, most religious belief, until it conform s with the godless. And they have the momentum, as most people's values come from what they read in the paper or a website. However, I've always liked Chick-fil-a's spicy chicken, so will continue to eat there.

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Jessica

4:27 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I am pretty sure that we still live in a free country where everyone is able to choose to practice their religion of choice or choose not to practice a religion at all. Why must Christians force their values on everyone? We have separation of church and state for a reason. I support your right to practice your faith. Can't you do that without imposing your beliefs on everyone?

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Mike Shortall

4:43 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

CFA doesn't "force their values" on anyone. They express a point of view on a social issue. NO one was ever denied a right by expressing an opinion. The legal definition of marriage is decided by the States and those that live in them, not by a corporate donations to social issue groups.

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Jessica

5:25 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Mike, What do you think these organizations are trying to do? They are working to promote a Christian agenda and that influence does, quite unfortunately, affect the state laws that are made. It's an effort to influence the creation of laws for everyone that reflect the beliefs of some. That is the very definition of imposing your beliefs on others.

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Jessica

5:28 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Denying one group of adults the legal rights and protections that come with the legal (not religious) status of marriage is discrimination. How could it not be?

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Mike Shortall

8:12 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Sorry, Jessica, but that's no different than groups who support tighter gun control laws, greater healthcare coverage, legalizing marijuana, etc. They are expressing their opinions and financing efforts in that behalf. They ALL want to influence legislation.

I do not buy the argument that CFA - land others who feel the same - are denying rights to anyone. There is no "right" to marriage to my knowledge. So long as civil laws recognize the significant other for the purpose of benefits and inheritance of wealth there is no discrimination in what CFA chooses to believe or to opine.

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tex

9:29 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Yes, Jessica, they are using their constitutional right of free speech to try and convince legislators to see things their way. Don't like it? Call your representative, and use your rights of free speech to let your views be heard. Mike S has it dead on--a nationwide chain restaurant, locate in malls, that's CLOSED ON SUNDAY? Might as well rename it "Christian Chicken". I've never eaten there, and I never will. But it doesn't change the fact that the owners have the right to have have their own religious beliefs, and use their money to support those beliefs.

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Jessica

1:21 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Mike, There are countless legal protections that marriage affords to individuals. As just one example, marriage status affects custody decisions after divorce or the death of a parent. There are countless examples of people who found themselves with no rights to the children that they had raised after the death of their same sex partner. It affects things like social security or pension benefits after the death of a partner. Also, what about the little stuff like tax filing status? If there is no right to marriage then why are heterosexual couples (even atheist heterosexuals) able to marry and enjoy the legal protections of marriage? These things are law, not religion, based. Making it legal for someone to have a firearm or buy marijuana doesn't prevent one specific group of people from having equal protection under the law. I am looking at this purely from the standpoint of wanting everyone to be able to have the same legal protections. I am neither homosexual nor extremely religious. Same sex marriage being illegal for everyone based on religious reasons is a direct violation of the separation of church and state.

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Mike Shortall

1:24 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Jessica: I've never stated anywhere that I object to the civil inclusion of gays in marriage. What I did say is that I know of no civil "right" to marriage.

deidre oglesby

1:18 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

some people still actually have the strength and courage to stand up for what is right in a world that has gone wrong... thanks to chickfila, tim tebow, kirk cameron

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2:58 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Kirk "straight to video" Cameron? Thanks for the laugh....

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Katrina

8:12 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

I think Chik fil -a did a good job standing up for what s right. "Be ye therfore doers of the Word and not hearer's only"

marion1

3:11 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

maybe those who support the Chickfila president should go on Friday and fill the parking lot? How silly all this is. Mr. Cathy's free speech is just as protected as the free speech of those with the opposite opinion. But sadly, this will make many folks reconsider having an opinion in any public forum---we do not all have the stomach for the abuse that comes from having beliefs others hate. Sad.

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Dot

3:24 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Marion, true. There is a "Buycott" being called for tomorrow, Wednesday, 1 August. Folks are asked to go at any time for a meal and bring famiy, friends, coworkers... The point is support for the 1st Amendment right to free speech, not against gays. As you said, Mr. Cathy has every right to speak his views and beliefs. If a crowd went on Friday, it would no doubt turn ugly. Let these folks do their thing, which would be silly as there is no evidence that there has been any discrimination against guys.

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pruckels

4:18 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

This is no more about free speech than it is about flying to the moon. This is about a corporation that puts proselytizing above everything else, and I have no problem with taking my business elsewhere because of that. Some of us are more accepting and enlightened than these christo-fascist bigots.

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Mike Shortall

4:31 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I've never once heard of anyone from CFA pushing their religious beliefs as part of their business service to the public. So that's so clearly not the issue!

It so much more about the fact that they use THEIR honestly earned money in a way that's consistent with their beliefs. And there's no law against that! So it is much more about their free speech rights than it is about "prosletyzing".

CFA never initiated any public attempt to silence those they disagree with.

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Jessica

4:39 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

They push their religious beliefs by working to impose a Christian definition of marriage on everyone. But not all people are Christian and sorry but not all people are heterosexual. That doesn't mean that they don't deserve equal protection under the law. All adults should have the right to legally formalize their relationships, otherwise this is not a free country. Could we have a separate distinction for Christian marriage? I understand that most Christians want to have their own definition of marriage as a man and a woman but does that have to be imposed on everyone as a law? We do not live in a theocracy and thank god for that!

Michael J.

3:25 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Evelyn Hall said, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" What happened to freedom of speech in this country!!!

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Katrina

8:23 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

Jesus said we as christians are to be the salt of the earth and not go where ever the crowd takes us. Be a God pleaser and not a man pleaser

Lisa

3:35 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Kudos to all who have left comments here. It is nice to see that at least in Upper Dublin there is still some evidence of common sense and civility. Only thing I would add to what Marion1 wrote is that this is not only sad but scary. This is the beginning of a more overt assault on freedom of speech and freedom of religion, and people are going to have to make very difficult choices.

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Dot

4:55 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

I agree, Lisa. We need to fight every step of the way. We need to do all we can to wake other folks up, also.

Curmudgeon

4:31 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

On Friday, the can kiss my ass. (probably not a new experience for them)

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HighwayMiles

1:22 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Amen? Amen, Melissa? Is that what you think God wants you to say? You think He supports your approval of another person's malicious humor? Really? If so, your God doesn't sound very Christian. You think you're being cute, but I think you're being hateful and bigoted. Lucky for you, I'm not the one who will ultimately judge you.

Bob

4:46 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Once again the radical left shows us how intolerant they really are, Every time someone stands up for Judeo-Christian values, the US Constitution, etc., the left immediately wants them banned, shut down, and stripped of their 1st Amendment rights.

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Camy Quinn

5:08 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

I agree that Chik-fil-A can say and stand for anything they choose. I believe the protestors can do whatever kissing they want to do to. That is what freedom is about. You don't have to like it, but you have to allow it. Personally, I will never eat at a Chik-fil-A, but I won't be kissing there either. I don't care at all that they are religious - that is fine with me. Many other businesses are religious (like Marriot) and I patron them. I care that CFA gives money to organizations that fight against gay equal rights and gay marriage. I believe in equal rights for and equal marriage for all Americans. I believe CFA has the right to give money to whatever organization they want - but I will simply never patron there. My gay friends and gay equality is much much more important than a chicken sandwich.

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Bob

7:44 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

So Collegeville Mom, you're equal marriage for all Americans? Then you must support the North American Man Boy Love Association, NAMBLA. Look them up if you don't know them. You obviously support polygamy as well.

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Lisa

12:37 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

There is a huge difference between people choosing not to be customers of Chick-Fil-A and city officials banning CFA from building new stores in their city.

You say that your gay friends and gay equality is much more important than a chicken sandwich. My response to you is that God's universal and natural law (shared by every major religion in the word) of one man and woman woman = marriage, as well as the constitution of the United States (which is supposed to express freedom of speech and freedom of religion) is much more important to me than the alleged rights of your gay friends.

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Camy Quinn

4:59 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Sorry Bob, I meant consenting adults. I didn't realize I needed to state that part.

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Bob

6:25 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I commented on what you wrote. Words mean things in my world CMom. So you do support polygamy between consenting adults.

Paul Pender

5:13 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

I wonder if they they keep the President to the same level of standards as they do their chicken sandwich. or better yet will they boycott gasoline from a country that would put them to death for being homosexual. I am all for Freedom of Speech and I have served this country for over 20 years defending that right. But please, put it into perspective as to what is really going on out in the world today. This is trivial considering Al-Qaeda is plotting our destruction. just saying

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Camy Quinn

5:55 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Trivial compared to terrorism - absolutely. But having equal rights is far from trivial to someone who is gay or for someone who has gay friends and family. It is a really really big deal. Chik-Fil-A could very easily solve this. They could continue to be a company with Christian values, but choose different organizations to donate to. No one would be offended if they wanted to help orphans or feed poor people or any of the other values Christians stand for. There are so many charities that need help. They chose to give to an organization that offends, belittles, and disparages a big chunk of the population. Of course there would be a back lash. I understand it is a Christian value that marriage is between a man and a woman. But there are lots of people (including many Christians - including many gay-Christians) who don't agree with that value in the least.

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Dot

7:10 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

CFA is a very generous company to many different charities. Folks certainly are free to not patronize any business they choose, for whatever reason they choose.

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Jeanne

7:36 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

But at this point they all have a right to their opinions. It seems one side is trying to shut down that right for the other side. To not allow a business to do business in your city because of their business values is ludicrous. Once you start limiting free speech for some, there is no longer free speech. Then someday, you may suffer for your speech. This is about Protecting Free Speech.

Melissa

6:40 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

I find it very funny how all these different types of groups claim racism and discrimination...yet are allowed to freely preach their feelings and we are expected to listen and change our minds for them, but the minute a Christian puts thier feelings and beliefs out there it becomes all out war. Just a thought. Heres another thought! Grow up, stop your crying and eat or dont eat a chicken sandwich!!!!

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Jessica

6:08 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

People will stop "crying" when everyone has equal protection under the law (and marriage affords adult couples some pretty important protection) regardless of their sexual orientation. Until then anyone with an understanding of equal rights will continue to question people and laws that deny equal rights to everyone.

alex gibbons

7:57 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

I fully support this same sex kiss day and any other protest that they conduct with every dollar that I spend at another establishment besides "chick filet " ! I personally condemn all of there stores nation-wide ! Also thank you Philly for condemning them all together in our great city of brotherly love ! And I hope all other large cities follow suit! I sincerely hope with all my diversity that they go out of business! Screw them forever, I pledge to never spend another dime at there store for the rest of my life! Also all of you just remember some times you have got to fight for your rights and equality that every civilized human being is entitled to ! Lots of love -Alex gibbons of the royersford area

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Jeanne

7:32 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

And you have a right to express that view. Now, what if you lost your job because if it? Where would you stand then? Perhaps you would value freedom of speech for all Americans at that point. This is about Free Speech. You are not forced to do business there, but they have a right to do business none-the-less.

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Karl

8:28 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

And there you have it folks. Alex appears to be all his rights and equality and those that agree with him, but a dissenting view cannot be tolerated, and the CFA business owner must lose his rights and equality.

I guess some people are more equal than others. See you at CFA today!

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Lisa

12:44 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Forcing a business out of business, forcing stores not to open, is an all-out war of intimidation, bullying, discrimination, harassment...all because CFA's founder believes in traditional marriage.

There is no right to marry a person of the same sex. Find where this is a universal human right. Can I marry my dog or my car? There was a guy on TV that has a romantic, sexual (yes, that's right), relationship with his car. Should he be able to marry his car? What about my son or daughter--can I marry them? If not, why not?

The EXACT same Judeo-Christian belief system that says incest is wrong says that homosexuality is wrong. Therefore if you throw out the idea that homosexuality is wrong, you are simultaneously throwing out rules against incest and bestiality, all of which are found in the Torah of the bible shared by Christians and Jews. Muslims believe much of what is found in the Judeo-Christian texts as well.

I don't know ANY Asians or East Indians of ANY faith (Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu) who support homosexual unions let alone marriage.

So let me get this "straight" (pun intended!): Homos are right and the rest of the entire world is wrong? You don't see a problem with that?

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Brady Gonsalves

1:04 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Wow Lisa! Angry much? Everything you say is based on your religious view. What about Atheists? What about those who don't want to get married in a church? Isn't it necessary to get a marriage license even if you do marry in a house of worship? Why then can't gay folks just have a civil ceremony and still be "married"? Are traditional couples who get hitched at City Hall and less married? I don't see a reason for gay marriage to be AGAINST THE LAW. The Church should have to do a bit of their own work and educate it's followers and leave the law out of it. And equating it to beastiality has been tried before. It failed then too.

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Lisa

1:12 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Hey Brady,

You're damned right I'm angry. This country is going to hell, and you are helping to lead it there. Supporting LGBT causes must NEVER be a litmus test for free enterprise in this country.

Next, check your reading comprehension, because I am not a Jew-Christian-Muslim-Buddhist. I am a Catholic. The vast majority of the world's religious believe that marriage is a sacred act between a man and a woman. Homosexuals and atheists are minorities who want to impose their world view on the rest of humanity. And not all atheists support gay rights.

Gay marriage should be against the law because it is a concept never envisioned by the founding fathers of the country, and because homosexuality is not a protected state of affairs in the constitution. The constitution protects religious groups from GOVERNMENTAL INTERFERENCE. By making marriage of homosexuals the law of the land, this then forces churches and other religious bodies to perform marriage ceremonies for same-sex couples, thus blatantly flushing the constitution down the toilet.

You're asking me if I'm "angry much"?! Damn straight I am. You don't care about the very forces that have knit this country, society--even civilization--together. Short sighted people think this is just about gays marrying. It is not. It's about the destruction of our civilization bit by bit.

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Jessica

6:16 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Homosexuality is NOT the same thing as incest, bestiality, or anything else along those lines because it is a relationship between two consenting and unrelated adults. Come on people! Anyway, if you take the bible literally then we are all the descendants of incestuous relationships. Who do you think Adam and Eve's children had sex with? That's right. Their own siblings. I wonder if they were married?

Norristown Ned

9:23 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Alex, you should go to Chick Fil A on Friday and order a fudge sundae to go

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HighwayMiles

1:02 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

You should! Because Norristown Ned would clearly like to meet you there and share it!

Tom Bartman

10:38 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

I bought Chick Fil A 3 days in a row now. The food is deeeeelicious!!! And the service is courteous and classy.

The difference between conservatives and liberals/progressives:

If company A said they endorse gay marriage - all is cool. Conservatives could care less - it's your view.

If company B said they endorse marriage as in the bible (man and woman) Liberals/Progs call for boycott! Not allowed to have that view!!! Boycott! Kill business! Destroy jobs!

The double standard is pretty sick. Perhaps people forget the US is founded on Christian values. Offended? Oh well.

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Mike Shortall

9:28 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Well stated, Tom. I was going to sit this out; but now I think I'll head over to the Warrington CFA tonight and load the family up with some good food served quickly and with a smile ... not because I agree with CFA (I'm a live-and-let-live sort.), but in support of their right to express their viewpoint without penalty or censorship.

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Brady Gonsalves

12:23 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

It's not that he said he endorses the biblical meaning, it's that his money goes to hate groups. And the country was actually founded on religious freedom. Those who broke from England were being persectuted for their beliefs and the last thing they would have wanted was to make a place where others would be persecuted as well. But, for arguments sake lets look at the Christian values on display here... where in the Bible does it represent that Jesus would be pleased with this type of anti- speech? It's very difficult to call myself a Christian when I see my fellow Christians using my faith as a weapon. So does that offend you? Then maybe you should do something about it, like live more like Christ(ian).

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Lisa

1:25 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Brady, in the Bible Jesus said "Be ye perfect, even as I am perfect." He also said, "Sin no more." He also talked openly of hell and eternal punishment for evildoers. What constituted "evil" in 1st Century Judea was clearly spelled out in the Torah, which Jesus knew by heart and believed with all His heart, since all of the Torah was God-breathed (inspired). In the Torah sexual sin is clearly stated, so anyone engaging let alone celebrating sexual immorality would be identified as an "evildoer." In the last book of Revelation it clearly states that anyone engaging in "sexual immorality" will not enter into eternal life (paradise). In 1 Romans Paul teaches that homosexual acts are the manifestation of a reprobate mind, and that God has given up on people who celebrate that kind of a lifestyle. If you are struggling against it, fine. But if you are calling that which is evil "good" and that which is good "evil" then you have a reprobate mind and are an enemy of God. That's where it says it in the Bible.

Dot

10:51 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Hi, Tom. Does anyone know where there is a group "buycott" tomorrow (Wednesday)?

If not, I think I'll go up to the one in Warrington. Anyone interested?

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Camy Quinn

11:58 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Tom, CFA does more than endorse. They give millions of dollars to fight against equal rights for other Americans. Liberals believe in equal rights for all and believe it is a value worth fighting for. Back in the day, conservatives didn't want equal rights for blacks either. Every little step helped blacks reach their goal. Rosa Parks, the Woolworth sit in, etc. Small victories led to equal rights. The Woolworth sit in (and the support those brave young men received from both blacks and whites) caused that large company to change their policies. Maybe something similar will happen here. Maybe this controversy will be one small step toward equal rights for ALL Americans. (Gay straight Christian non-christian etc.)

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Valerie jackson

10:06 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I will never understand nor will I even attempt to understand why people attempt to relate being LGBT with being Black. What a sad attempt to solicit sympathy. Also, it should be realized that Chick Fil A standing for what is right is not to discriminate. Chick Fil A is not refusing service to anyone, which is what was happening back in the day as has ben said, to Blacks. No one is staging attacks on LGBT because of their sexual prefernce as was done "back in the day" to Blacks because of the color of their skin. We also should understand that marriage is not a right, it is a gift- an exchange between two people and if done correctly, it is between God and two people.

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Dot

11:23 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Hi, Mom.Your statement regarding civil rights is not historically accurate: "Liberals believe in equal rights for all and believe it is a value worth fighting for".Espousing something doesn't translate into action.Yours:"Back in the day,conservatives didn't want equal rights for blacks either.Every little step helped blacks reach their goal. Rosa Parks."The "Jim Crow laws,"created by the liberal Democrats included segregation of basically all public places.Rosa Parks is a heroine because she sat in the "whites only" front section of a bus(a direct result of liberal Democrats)which was a great step that led to the overturning of these horrid laws and practices. This article from the Wall St Journal dated 13 August 2008, is an excellent summary of Democrat/liberal and Republican/conservative political action for Black Americans: http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB121856786326834083-lMyQjAxMTIxMTA4NjUwNjY3Wj.html?mod=wsj_share_email
Please go see the movie, Runaway Slave, that's playing at the Regal Warrington Theater at County Line & Easton Rd. It's playing through tomorrow. It will give you an appreciation for the true history of Blacks vis-a-vis political party affiliation. It chronicles the wounds and speaks to healing in a general sense. In particular, it talks about what party/persuasion did what when it comes to civil rights through American History. Take care.

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Lisa

12:45 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

How about some proof, Collegeville Mom?

Are you calling gayness the same as blackness? Oh right, you are.

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HighwayMiles

1:14 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Collegeville Mom is right. In this regard, being gay is akin to being black. Or being asian. Or being short. Or being freckled. See, those are qualities in place at birth. Some examples of qualities NOT in place at birth include being a bigot. Or a racist. Or judgmental. Or sanctimonious. Or misinformed. Those are qualities that develop later. Fortunately, those can also be changed.

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Jessica

6:23 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Well said. History will shame these people. 50 years from now people will look back on this kind of discrimination with the same disgust we feel for the abject racism and sexism in our society's past.

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Jessica

6:26 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

The parallel that people draw between gay rights and African American rights is equal rights. Everyone is supposed to have the same protection under the law regardless of race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation. Homosexuals can no sooner change their sexual orientation than an African American can change their skin color. No one would choose to be gay in this homophobic society. That idea is ridiculous.

Michael J.

6:01 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I think their should be a heterosexual pride day. We can have a parade and celebrate our lifestyle. We can also have a "right to life" rally.

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Lisa

12:47 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

That's right. Let's get floats and parade up and down our neighborhoods, husbands and wives wearing lingerie and squirting K-Y at each other and spanking each other and demanding to be respected.

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HighwayMiles

1:39 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I'm not sure you know this, but heterosexual relations don't usually require K-Y, Lisa. Maybe your husband doesn't do it for you.

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Lisa

2:33 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Highwaymiles, how would you possibly know anything about heterosexual relationships? As far as what I wrote, it was just a graphic spoof of the filth that you celebrate on Gay Pride Day.

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3:02 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I'm not gay but technically isn't EVERY day "hetrosexual pride day" considering we are the majority by about 85%? Why do gay people threaten you so much?

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HighwayMiles

6:41 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Because I'm a mother of two, married to my first and only husband, Lisa. But I think all this rampant gayness is starting to turn me. Want a date?

Jeanne

7:26 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Why is this on UD Patch? There isn't even a Chick Fil A in UD? Does Patch have some sort of agenda here? Keep it to Upper Dublin please.

This is about freedom of speech people! You might not like what they say...fine. But what happens when YOU can't do business for expressing YOUR opinions? There is a greater issue at stake here. I, for one, prefer to protect freedom of speech, all speech, not just what I agree with. Once you shut down one group of people from speaking you've lost your freedoms too. Your time will come. It is a slippery slope we are treading on.

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tom blair

7:42 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

So if Philadelphia doesn't like what you stand for they kick you out. But if Chik-Fill-A doesn't like what you stand for they serve you anyway. This is why intolerance has always come from the Left. This is a very serious mistake homosexuals and their political alys are makig - and one I'm delighted to see them make.

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Barb O'Donnell

9:15 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Free speech. Enough said. Not everyone has to like it, be adult and accept it and stop the constant violence and whining lefties.

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Camy Quinn

9:30 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

This isn't about free speech, it is about discrimination. CFA supports discrimination against gay people (which they have every right to do - no one is questioning that). Gay people and gay supporters will no longer tolerate discrimination and are fighting for equality. Clearly much of America agrees with them - including leaders, mayors, and representatives. IT IS NOT A FREE SPEECH ISSUE. IT IS ABOUT DISCRIMINATION. How can people support discrimination of such a large percentage of their fellow Americans? How can people be comfortable knowing their neighbors, co-workers, friends, family aren't considered equal?? It totally baffles me.

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Mike Shortall

10:20 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

B.S. Collegeville Mom ... CFA simply supports their view of what they believe is a very important social issue. The organizations they support express a view of marriage that - I hate to break to you - is supported by a lot of people.

Here's a list of who they donate to through their WinShape foundation (2010):
Marriage & Family Foundation: $1,188,380
Fellowship Of Christian Athletes: $480,000
National Christian Foundation: $247,500
New Mexico Christian Foundation: $54,000
Exodus International: $1,000
Family Research Council: $1,000
Georgia Family Council: $2,500

I looked at the three top funding recipients, and found nothing "anti-gay" on their websites. The do however support a view of marriage that's perfectly suited and consistent with their beliefs. I saw nothing that suggests they "hate" or threaten LGBTs.

The REAL discrimination here is being exercised by the LGBT lobby and their political supporters.

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Lisa

12:52 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

So it is okay to discriminate against people who believe in traditional, Bible-based principles? It's okay to discriminate against Christians and shut down their businesses? It's okay to slander people?

How is not allowing two entities to marry the same as "not considering them equal"? I am not allowed to marry my own son, but that doesn't mean that I'm not as human as you are.

We are entitled to the rights were were given by God and nature. No more, no less. There is no HUMAN RIGHT to be homosexual and engage in homosexual acts. It is against nature and is gravely disordered.

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HighwayMiles

1:36 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Against nature, Lisa? I'm guessing you're not a biologist. Thank you for explaining my human rights to me, though. How have I, or society as a whole, survived so long without your guidance? Please tell me what other rules apply, so I might go forth into the world and not accidentally break them.

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Lisa

1:44 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Highway miles, Where do human rights come from? If they come from God then there has to be universal laws and truths that are attached to those rights. If there is no God, then all other arguments are pointless, for without God there is no argument against doing anything. You could rape, kill, pillage, sodomize, steal to your heart's content, because there is no such thing as goodness, morality, ethics, afterlife, punishment in the afterlife, and so forth.

If human rights are anything humans say they are, then we are all doomed, because outside of the scope of an absolute truth (even if you take away the deity aspect), all you have is anarchy.

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HighwayMiles

6:47 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

This may be very difficult for you to believe, Lisa, but most people are good. Yes, even without being told to be. If God's wrath is the only thing keeping you from killing people, I'm scared to know you live in my community.

Valerie jackson

9:32 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Chick Fil A is 100% correct. We have gotten so caught up in political correctness that we have forgotten even the basic Biblical principals on which this country was originally founded. We wonder why there is such calamity in this world today; that is what happens when you remove God. It has been a know fact since their opening that Chick Fil A is a Christian principaled corporation. The Same sex kiss day is simply obsurd and and points out just how troubled its creator, if you will, and supporters really are. But hey, go for it because it will only increase sales and notoriety for Chick Fil A. After all, the Bible does teach us that what Satan means for bad, God turns into good.

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Camy Quinn

9:41 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

And this is not bullying. The people are kissing! They are showing love for each other. Gay children are often bullied their entire lives to the point of suicide. Heterosexuals are not the victims here. And if you want to have a parade - go ahead, but generally pride parades are for people of a minority to celebrate their culture. Minorities have it tougher. In this country, in general, minorities have always had to fight for equality.

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Lisa

12:55 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

The gay lobby that has politicians wrapped around their fingers--this is the bullying. Way to sidestep the issue. Mayors are rallying around this horse manure and are publicly stating that CFA cannot build stores in their cities. Hence bullying, but of a dire nature that must be fought against, or else we are going to have a situation where new businesses must sign a statement that they support LGBT causes or else they will not be able to do business in a city.

This country is going to HELL.

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Camy Quinn

4:29 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

@Lisa. The country has been through much worse. Relax. We are safe. Gay marriage will only show what a wonderful accepting country we are. If God didn't like homosexuals why did he make so many of them so damn good looking? ;)

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Stephen Eickhoff

4:30 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

If the minorities have always had to fight for equality in our Republic, you might ask why the progressive left has continually demanded more direct democracy. Direct democracy opens the exploitation of the minority, by definition.

Paul Pender

9:51 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

What discrimination Collegeville Mom? Has a complaint been filed that they refuse to serve someone, hire someone, or promote someone? I doubt it but because of this publicity. I am sure there will be now. And the ambulance chasing lawyers will be all over it like white on rice. And since you brought up Civil Rights in one of your previous posts. Look at the true history of the civil Rights Act. It was White Southern Republican Senators that got that through not Democrats. William Fulbright, Clinton's mentor, voted against it so did Al Gore Sr. The KKK was founded by a Democrat. The NAACP was founded by 3 white Republicans, so please get off your moral high horse. You don't like bible thumpers, I get it but remember don't come to me and tell me I am taking rights away or discriminating against anybody, when we defend everybody's rights.

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Camy Quinn

10:37 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

CFA gives money to organizations that lobby against gay marriage. You can spin it how you want, but by saying they "support marriage between a man and a woman" is the same as saying "no gay marriage." Money to fight gay marriage is discrmination. Again, you can spin it and say it is a "Christian value", but, many see it as gay discrimination. This is beyond Democrat or Republican (btw Cheney has stated he supports gay marriage). This is beyond religious or non-religious. I don't care what party you are with or what God you believe/don't believe in. The question is: Do you think all America's should be treated equally? Or, do you think some Americans should be discriminated against? CFA thinks some Americans should be discriminated against - just read what Mr. Cathy said. This makes a lot of people really upset. There are still many people in the country hate gays for some reason. I will never understand why. But people are starting to stand up and fight for what is right. I guess you can say I am on a moral high horse - but al I want is for people to be treated equally. I don't think I am any more moral than the next person. I'm not sure what a Bible thumper is. Can you explain it to me? But if you are against gay marriage, yes, you are supporting discrimination.

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Mike Shortall

11:24 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I have no problem at all with gay marriage in the civil sense. My only restriction is that one cannot force the concept of gay marriage on religions and churches that grant the sacramental rite.

As is their moral imperative, these groups that you characterize as "dsicriminatory" simply push a social/moral position as they see it. Nothing more. They do not deny LGBTs anything. They don't have the power to do that outside of their personal, private religious practices and personal opinions. They simply push their social viewpoint.

They have every right to express their opinions. No one was ever denied a "right" by an opinion.

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Camy Quinn

4:33 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

@Mike, and I have no problem with churches having their own rules. If they won't marry two men, fine. These groups push their social agenda beyond their church. They want marriage defined as a man and a woman for all Americans. Gay people should be able to be married by a judge or by what every religion allows it, and they should be granted all the amenities (rights?) that go with it.

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Mike Shortall

4:49 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Collegeville Mom: all CFA does is express an opinion and support groups consistent with that opinion. Their actions deny nothing to anyone. It's no different than people who push for and fund efforts to expand gun control or legalize marijuana. The decisions are made by the States when it comes to the definition of marriage, not CFA.

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Camy Quinn

5:09 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I agree with you CFA doesn't write legislation. The organizations that support traditional marriage don't write the laws, but they do influence the politicians. CFA supports the groups that influence politicians to prevent gay marriage (and not just within the church). I actually have no problem with CFA doing this - they have every right. I suppose I am a liberal (I hate labels), but I am really split on many other issues - except this one. I 100% support gay marriage and I understand why CFA's comments and money donations have riled so many people.

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Kathy

12:09 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Homosexul "union" is un-natural...the anus in not made for a penis...the vagina is the perfect "space"...the anus has many blood vessels, and the sperm goes directly into the blood stream....fecal is not a clean environment for the penis...dirty sex....HIV/AIDS...Hepititus B, TB...just to name a few sexualy transmitted disease that is rampant in the homosexual community....it is a deathstyle...if someone was born "gay" then God would not condem the "activity"....Exodus International has helped thousands leave the homosexual "lifestyle"....check out their website...lots of testimonies of "freed" men and women. Love the homosexual, hate the addition that keeps them bound!

Camy Quinn

10:40 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Just wondering, those of you who support the donations of CFA, do you have many gay friends? Do you tell your gay friends that you don't believe they should be allowed to get married? How do they react?

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Dot

11:34 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Yes, a number. They respect my beliefs as I respect them and their beliefs.

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Janis C Sheridan

8:18 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

Dear Collegeville Mom...you are insisting on saying this is about the belief or non belief in gay marriage. It is about the freedom to believe it or not to believe it. I do and have always had gay friends and would be disappointed if they did not see the difference. And yes, they do know how I feel. We can agree to disagree simply because I don't believe in it, does not mean I do not respect them. We just have a difference of opinion. If you had a health store business and I knew you were gay, would I have the right to call all my heterosexual friends and force your store to close. I would have the right, but it would not have crossed my mind for a nanosecond to do so. Still don't get it???

LP-SC

10:49 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

@Collegeville Mom - Who, exactly, did CFA give money to that is anti-gay? I don't mean pro-traditional, I mean they are a gay hating organization. All the furor I have seen has been over 5 or 6 organizations who IN TOTAL have received less than $75k. That is chump change when millions are given away and could easily have been done under the radar by an employee with ulterior motives.
And before you get into the speakers at CFA's own association, every convention, meeting, symposium that I have ever attended had a "their views are their own" clause. It is the major message that they are brought in to deliver - not the single statements that are pulled out as 'examples' of the entire speech.
I've done a lot of reading on this and can't find any solid evidence that CFA is an anti-LGBT organization. Pro-traditional, absolutely. Non-supportive of LGBT, sure. What I have seen is a lot of "this is what they meant" and flaunting of minor donations.
Pro-"A" and not supportive of "B" does not equal Anti-"B".

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Lisa

12:56 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Exactly: Typical lib making statements of "proof" without proof.

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Camy Quinn

5:12 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Look at Mike's previous post. He didn't list a source, but I have confidence in his numbers. Or maybe @Lisa he is a typical "conservative making statements without proof" Actually, I don't know if he is a conservative, but I feel he probably isn't a "typical lib". LOL!

Michael J.

11:11 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

It is about free speech. I have never went into a Chick Fil A and was asked about my orientation. I AM SUPPORTING FREE SPEECH. It's a shame, the liberals cover themselves in the blanket of freedom when it suits them.

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Camy Quinn

11:12 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Marriage & Family Foundation: $1,188,380
I don't think, and have never said CFA hates gays. The marriage and family foundation is not a hate group in the least. Using your words, "Pro-traditional, absolutely. Non-supportive of LGBT, sure." I agree with this. You say "non-supportive", others feel "anti" is more applicable. Semantics. Generally if someone is Pro-Obama, they are Anti-Romney. If they are Pro-life, they are Anti-abortion. I feel that Pro-A generally does imply Anti-B. But again, it is just semantics.

CFA can do whatever it wants. People can respond (in support or not) however they want. Some people see nothing wrong with what CFA does, others do. I am happy that I live in a counrty where everyone can openly share their views and opinions. I am glad people can peacefuly protest without fear. I am glad that people actually can produce change in their country (more liberal or more conservative change).

Personally, I hope the view of CFA aren't shared by the majority (although, currently, they probably are). I feel the ball is rolling toward gay equality and I don't think it can be stopped (which is wonderful). I can do my part to support it by not patroning CFA, and I know many others will do the same. :)

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Dot

11:43 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Support if you will; don't support if you will. I am happy that we live in a counrty where everyone can openly share their views and opinions. Hopefully, folks can peacefuly protest without fear. How do folks feel when there are pickets outside businesses? What about the left's actions in busing hundreds to peoples' homes and scaring the hell out of the kids that are there? Just saying...

Camy Quinn

11:56 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

"What about the left's actions in busing hundreds to peoples' homes and scaring the hell out of the kids that are there?" I don't know what you are referring to here?

People might not like pickets, but it is part of a peaceful protest. Pickets are another form of freedom of speech. CFA can state their views and protestors can show theirs. That is what America is about. I see people picketing outside planned parenthood all the time. I wonder how the young girl trying to get birth control feels - fearful probably. Both sides of the political spectrum picket. That is nothing new.

And if you want to talk about kids being scared, imagine the decades and decades of fear that the gay community (many who are children) has lived with. It is time to end the fear.

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Lisa

1:20 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

If you stop engaging in behavior that makes you afraid...problem solved. If you enable kids to engage in self-destructive behavior, you have only yourself to blame if they live in fear and opportunities are not afforded to them by the rest of society.

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Dot

2:10 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Hi, Mom. I'm afraid that you may be in a liberal media bubble if you are unaware of the unions, Occupy and other liberal groups showing up at the personal residences of businessmen. Picket outside businesses, not at owners' homes. Try these for just a couple of instances:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/verizon-union-workers-bused-to-ceos-home-for-protest/#

http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/19/news/companies/SEIU_Bank_of_America_protest.fortune/index.htm
See this quote: "As bullhorns rattled with stories of debtor calls and foreclosed homes, Baer's teenage son Jack -- alone in the house -- locked himself in the bathroom. "When are they going to leave?" Jack pleaded when I called to check on him". And...?

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Camy Quinn

4:42 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Dot. Yeah, that seems pretty extreme. I don't agree with picketing at people's homes. Now I don't have "proof" - I am assuming here - but I would assume many people who have worked at Planned Parenthood have also had protestors at their house. I believe (again, no proof here) some doctors have been killed. So, there is nasty protest on both side. Both sides have wackos.

I looked up proof anyway. http://www.ppin.org/donate/pledge_a_protest.html

Michael J.

12:12 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

News flash, there are so many people trying to get IN at the Exeter Chick-Fil-A to purchase, that some are turned away.

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James Myers

12:24 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Wow. I swung by the Audubon location just before noon and it definitely looks busy, but I don't think anyone was getting turned away. If anyone has pictures of the crowds of hungry Chick-fil-A supporters, post them in our Pics & Clips section.

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Michael J.

1:13 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

James, not a good idea. I can just imagination the retaliation that could develop.

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James Myers

1:20 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Retaliation? I hope not. I can't imagine what it would bring on as far as retaliation.

I realize that the comment section is always a bit of a minefield, especially with contentious issues, but I'll keep an eye out for anything that violates our terms of service. I always hope my users will conduct themselves in an appropriate manner.

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Lisa

1:51 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I guess you haven't get encountered the gay Taliban, you know the hoards of gays that have gotten away with burning and vandalizing churches and urinating on them, among other acts of domestic terrorism.

It is time people wake up: These people are not our friends, are NOT tolerant, and like the PLO will not respond civilly to well-meaning "appeasement gestures." If you give them what they want they will NOT be happy and will NOT go away. They want more and more. They want the minds of your children.

Jeanne

1:44 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I had Chick Fil A for lunch and it was not yet noon and the line at the Montgomery Mall was wrapping around the food court. Go Chikin!

And Yes, it is about Freedom of Speech. Having a business denied the right to operate because of its owners stated opinions or beliefs, even if you think they are discriminatory, is an assault on freedom of speech. That is what caused the outpouring or support for CFA. Some of you are so blind you are missing the point. The outpouring or support didn't start until Mayors started saying they would block Chick Fil A. It was not started when the CFA president stated his views. So you cannot say this is a gay rights issue, it is FREEDOM OF SPEECH and I am tired of the left trying to SILENCE the right. (Case in point: Obama and Fox News.)

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Lisa

1:53 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

The PLO has publicly stated it will not rest until Israel is thrown into the Mediterranean sea. It is a lie that all gays want is marriage equality. They will not be happy until God and religion (especially Christianity and MOST especially Catholic Christianity) are overthrown.

However, the gates of hell (aka the homosexual agenda) will not prevail against Holy Mother Church.

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Camy Quinn

4:47 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

It seems that Catholics support gay marriage more than Protestants. I didn't know that. How do your fellow Catholics feel that you know?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/154529/Half-Americans-Support-Legal-Gay-Marriage.aspx

HighwayMiles

2:17 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Lisa, you seem really fearful, angry and unhappy. Go get a massage or something. Go for a nature walk. Really. Your attitude seems self-destructive. Put a little love in your heart. It's all going to be okay.

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Libby

2:23 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

This is going to come in pieces, b/c I have so much to say.

The argument for so many is that the Bible told them so. Well, I guess that makes rape OK. According to Judges 21: 10-24 NLT, “They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards.  When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife!  And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding.  Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" ” Slavery would also be OK according to the Bible. Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT states, “However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way."
Proof that the Bible is not a good argument.

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Stephen Eickhoff

4:27 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Context is paramount. God did not command people to go out and forcibly take wives... it was the elders! I can't help but notice you left out verse 25:

"In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes."

RIGHT IN HIS OWN EYES.

As for the slavery, this is a relic of a forgotten practice. Like God allowed people to divorce (because their hearts were hard), he allowed those without wealth or hope to SELL THEMSELVES into slavery. Notice the other passages later that talk about people selling themselves into slavery.

In Acts, we read about how it was revealed to the Gentiles, "for it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials: that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication." This absolves Gentile converts to Christianity from following strict Mosaic law, which was created for the Jews.

Lisa

2:24 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

You're right, but not in the way you intended. People like you intend to humiliate others in an attempt to deflect the person's argument and circumvent the real issues. You in particular use ad hominem attacks in an attempt to get others to *think* I am hysterical or insane. Not going to work. I have a real fear and a real anger against the rabid pro-gay agenda. This agenda is anti-tolerance, not pro-tolerance, and it will stop at nothing until people like me bow to you and pledge our allegiance to your cause. This is war. And I will fight you. And no, I don't need a massage or a walk. I need people like you to back off and sodomize each other in the privacy of your own bedrooms rather than rubbing my face in your twisted lifestyle.

I love that which is good and decent and holy. I do not love sin. You love sin. I don't. I think you should massage the sin out of your life.

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HighwayMiles

9:57 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Again, and not that it matters really, but I am a heterosexual married mom. No sodomy in my bedroom, but I've probably taken the name of the Lord in vain a few times, most recently while reading some of these comments. I know. So very twisted. I can't imagine you really want to fight me. In fact, we may have passed each other in the grocery store. Entirely possible. Maybe you smiled at my babies. Perhaps I opened a door for you. I don't think you'd hate me in real life. I'm not sure why you've chosen to say such hateful, and frankly rather crude and perverse things online. You seem rather obsessed with it, whereas I give no thought whatsoever to what anyone does in their bedroom, bathroom, foyer or anywhere else. It has nothing to do with me. Those topics are between me and my husband only. I don't think you're insane. I think you're scared and I'm really not sure why. If I told you your love was inferior and wrong and not worthy of recognition, you'd be fairly upset. How would that feel, you think?

Lisa, your marriage is a sham. Your love is an abomination. The things you do in your bedroom are shameful and sick. People like you shouldn't be allowed to get married. I'm going to eat at Clucks-R-Us tomorrow with other like minded people who think you're twisted.

It's so utterly ridiculous it makes you laugh, right? How dare I? Well there ya go, sweetheart. How dare you?

Libby

2:24 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I grew up a Christian. My family went to church every Sunday. We spent all of our holidays in the church. We spent our summer days at bible school camp. We volunteered our time to help the community our church was in. The message that was resounding throughout all of my time spent in my Christian church was do unto others as you would have done to you and love thy neighbor. No where did they ever tell us to not accept people who enter same sex marriages. When I was a child, we had a lesbian couple in our extended family. We were taught that it was their life to do as they choose and we should always be respectful of others. We were taught to respect, not hate. Those 2 wonderful women are still in a very loving relationship 40 years later. How many “traditional” marriages have held together that long? Why are we not appalled by the fact that so many enter this sacrament of love as man and wife and leave it as if it is a contract they can void and move onto the next. Marriage is a sacrament, not a contract. Society is so comfortable breeding hate against those that want to enter this sacrament of love, if they are not a man and a woman, but they are OK with the high rate of divorce and the broken families that result from these divorces.

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Janis C Sheridan

2:24 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

Hi Libby,
Our upbringings seem similar. Two brothers in our family have long time relationships. There was never a question of not respecting them. They deserve all the rights and privileges as a married couple. I do, however, resent the insistence on changing the traditional term of marriage. If their rights are their real concern, then that should be the fight.. Tolerance and common sense no longer exist in negotiating. What heterosexual couples you know could you imagine forcing exhibitions in front of anyplace.to make a point. When breast feeding (which is so natural, and yet people thought it disgusting) in public was taboo. We just got our babies, covered our breasts and fed nursed. It was done tastefully and did not embarrass anyone. And the few who had to go overboard were quickly forgotten. They did not make the difference. Go to Chicago and watch the Gay Pride Parade. If you can deal with it for more than a few minutes, you might get a laugh. But I assure you that if heterosexuals did the same thing, we most certainly would be fined and posted all over the news.
This is really not a religious issue. Quoting the bible is only effective if one interpretation coincides with one's own belief. This is about freedom. We are in very grave danger and I am happy to see so many people agreeing that gays have their rights, but not at the expense of others' rights. The more who believe, this president will not be reelected.

Libby

2:27 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

This conversation tends to get ridiculous when references to men and boys, women and girls or the ignorant comparison of man and beast become part of the argument. This is about man and woman, man and man, woman and woman. It is about consenting adults. You may also bring in the argument of polygamy, hey if a woman wants to share her husband with others, that is her choice. The statement of Pope Nicholas I in which he declared in 866, "If the consent be lacking in a marriage, all other celebrations, even should the union be consummated, are rendered void." This high ranking Christian also had the wisdom to refer to consenting adults.
As for CFA. I will continue to boycott them on the principle of their food is greasy trash. I will now have a new purpose to educate others on why they should not eat at fast food chains such as these who fund hate, not education. This is not about me trying to convince you to love gays. This is a message of respect. Stay educated people. The Bible should not be your end-all, be-all argument, we have evolved and that text has not. Samuel Adams said it best, "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless
minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Stay educated and stay respectful. Go to bed at night knowing that the message you are sending would make you proud if your children treated you the same way you are treating others.

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Lisa

2:30 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

The fact that your family failed to bring you up correctly in the "fear and admonition of the Lord" has no bearing on the teachings of the Church. Your family dropped the ball, and now you have a misguided understanding of right and wrong. I'm sorry this happened to you.

In other news, two lesbians just beat and buried alive another lesbian in a love triangle gone wrong. What is your point?

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3:05 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Yeah because hetrosexual people never hurt each other....sigh. Did you graduate high school Lisa? If so, where so I know to stay out of that town.

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Stephen Eickhoff

12:33 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Lisa was refuting Libby's argument. Probably unnecessary.

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3:04 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

People who tend to go overboard with hate for stuff, especially gay rights, seem to have deep seeded issues they are fighting. How many religious right wing "preachers" have been outted as gay or caught molesting little boys?

And that is all I have to say about that....

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Stephen Eickhoff

4:17 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

So you're saying Dan Cathy is probably gay? If he was, would that make the idea of the "traditional family" stronger or weaker?

Michael J.

3:12 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

It's interesting. Everyone seems to be exercising their free speech rights now.

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alex gibbons

3:25 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Screw chic filet I support this protest and any other protest they decide to conduct (as far at the same se. Kiss day!) I hope that there is such a big turn out that the closed minded holy rollers can't get in without a couple kissing there partner and being directly in there way and in there face! I am condemning all of there establishments by pledging to never spend another dime there now or ever and forever! And thank you Philadelphia for condemning them in the city of brotherly love! They get mad props for that and I really hope to see ALL other large and small cities follow suit with condemning them in there cities as well!!!, kick them to the curb with there closed-minded evil outrageous view on same sex relations! WHO ARE THEY to be the moral compass of the world and WHO put them in charge of reprimanding them by refusing them there mediocre, at best formed chicken"product"! Anyhow everyone just remember sometimes more than not you have got to fight and stand up for our rights and equality! But you have more than half of the world backing you protests, SO keep on keeping on and lets all show them what a little determination can do to there poorly run restaurants, let's hit them where it hurts, in the bank account. Wheather they choose to admit it or not there will be or are sorry they made such a rediculous comment - with all my love sincerely yours Alexander P. Gibbons of royersford,PA !love you guys !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dot

3:47 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Folks who go and those who don't are exercising their 1st Amendment rights, as the CEO is exercising his. No one had better touch nor block access to anyone, regardless of which side of the argument they may be on. Touching another without their consent is assault. Blocking access can lead to trespassing, interference, disorderly conduct or like charges. Check out the ACLU guidelines.

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Jeanne

4:15 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Um, you might want to proof read. It is hard to take someone who can't spell seriously.

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Mike Shortall

4:35 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

You can't simply make stuff up either! CFA NEVER denied service to anyone based on their lifestyle.

Other than that, you are wlecome not to eat there. I'm pretty sure they won't miss your business, given what I've heard about turnout at their restaurants today! My wife aksed me what I wanted for dinner tonight. Can you guess my answer???

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Bob

5:42 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Alex, why are you so gung-ho on having local governments squash people's 1st Amendment Rights? My friend, you are the intolerant one and the sad thing is that you don't even realize it. If you think Philadelphia & Chicago are so great, why don't you leave bucolic Royersford and move to one of those two hell holes and live within their "Values" of soaring murder rates, high crime, and corrupt and incompetent politicians.

Jeanne

4:13 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Holy Canoli People...this is the hateful and bigoted quote:
"We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit," Cathy said. "We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that."

I cannot believe all of this is over THAT quote.
Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/long-lines-at-valley-chick-fil-a-spots-in-support-of-marriage-stance#ixzz22KLwARdz

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Janis C Sheridan

8:31 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

LOL...I wish I said that, Jeanne.

Stephen Eickhoff

4:15 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

You know, if heterosexual folks showed up at my restaurant to grope and slobber all over each other, I'd have to kick them out. If they're trying to make a point instead of offending or hurting business, they'll keep it modest.

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Mike Shortall

4:36 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I think that kind of behavior in any food establishment would be cause for removal!

Bob

5:24 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Uh oh, it looks like the silent majority got mobilized today in support of Chick-Fil-A.
Take a look at what is happening in Chick-Fil-A's all across the country today!
http://twitchy.com/2012/08/01/boycott-fail-redux-citizens-santa-unite-for-chick-fil-a-appreciation-day-photos-show-huge-success/

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Bob

6:37 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Have you noticed the people on the left are trying to change the arguement from a 1st Amendment Rights issue to a gay & lesbian issue? Local governments are trying to shut down Chick-Fil-A's because of what the founder said, not because of the compan's business practices. This is very dangerous and you people on the left are usefull idiots.

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Jeanne

8:29 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Yes, that is exactly what they are doing.

Mike Shortall

8:14 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Tried to hit the CFA in Warrington. Couldn't even get into the parking lot! The place was packed with a line long enough to wrap around the building. The drive thru line went around the building, out the driveway, and down Rt 611!

Took a few pictures. Will be posting them to Facebook later.

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Margo

8:35 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

No need to protest, it will just encourage "christians" to support them. Just don't eat there. You are not going to change narrow minds who are afraid to think outside of the "box ".

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Louie

7:10 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Margo,
Don't be crazy it's a darn good chicken sandwich and whether or not I/You agree with their thinking doesn't change that fact. Me? I'll continue to dine there.

Dot

8:42 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Just got back from CFA in Warrington. We were there for an hour, and the entire time, there were folks in line waiting to get in. The inside was packed, folks out the door, around the building to the drive-in then doubled back to the door.
Also, a solid column of cars going around the building to the drive-in and another solid line on Easton Road backed up to the BJ's driveway.Many, many supportive beeps of a horn. Beware of what will be shown in newspapers and the news tonight & tomorrow. No doubt there will be a good-sized picture of the 2 young ladies who set up on the corner with signs opposing CFA. Also, I don't know if Fox 29 did any interviews or filming earlier in the day, but as soon as the young ladies showed up, a camera guy and one with a microphone jumped out of the truck & filmed and talked to them. I hollered at them," What are we chopped liver?" Someone in the crowd say, "No we're chopped chicken." LOL! A great friendly, patient crowd. Everyone knew why they were there, and several had pocket Constitutions with them.

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Bill

8:44 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I think CFA should have a line of clothing.
A cow with a shirt saying, "I'm not chicken".

Do you know where the tactic of "jumping all over the one who doesn't agree with you" came from? You know everyone point their fingers at the person and yell accusations (homophobic, racist, etc…) at them until they become embarrassed and back down. “The Communist Manifesto”!

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Bill

9:49 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Sorry, Let me back off that last comment. I'm second guessing my memory of where the tactic originated from. In America I believe it has become widely used through Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" who dedicated the book...
"to the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer."

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Meme

10:47 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

I think this is ridiculous! Mr. Cathy was only practicing his freedom of speech. I think all the gay's are taking this to far. They need to grow up. It is wrong for same sex couples to marry. Thank you Mr. Cathy for saying what you believe!

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Josh

11:01 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Chick-fil-A's President brought this unto himself, and the company over which he presides. He does have the Freedom of Speech, to say how he feels - - and customers of this public eatery have their own Rights to Freely Respond in kind - and a consumer's best weapon is the withdrawal of their patronage. If Dan Cathy wants to wade into a public debate - especially one as saturated with hateful prejudice as is the same-sex marriage topic - then he invites whatever sort of public backlash that comes his way. And if Mike Huckabee wants to galvanize the homophobic community into a targeted consumerism of support, then God bless him. But the shareholders of this publicly traded corporation should be involved in the public relations decision-making activities, as well, since its their collective investment that has given this franchise its financial strength throughout the years. In this respect, the President is "messing with their money", and perhaps they choose not to be invested in a company that engages in wedge-issue politics, for fear of their stock value to plummet as a result of this unnecessary infusion of personal beliefs. It was unprofessional, if not just plain hurtful, to a wide swath of the American public - and that portion of their consumers deserves not to be "judged" on their way to a chicken sandwich. The Kiss-a-thon on Friday is an excellent demonstration of true democracy - Let Love Rule!!!

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Mike Shortall

11:22 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

a). Chick Fil-A is privately owned, not publicly traded. So there are no "shareholders".
b). I'm pretty sure, given the crowd I saw at the Warrington store, whatever Mr. Cathy "brought down on himself", he'll survive quite .
c). I went there with no other intention than to support Cathy's freedom to speak his mind and to spend his money on those organizations with which he agrees. Nothing his does affects anyone's rights. The people who disagree can simply eat elsewhere.
d). The people to be really cautious about are the ones who want their stores closed down (Philly, New York, Boston) all because the man "waded into a public debate". Next, they'll be taking things away from anyone who disagrees with them about anything ... like which sugary drinks you should or should not be allowed to drink. Those are the real wackos!

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Bob

12:39 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Well Josh, a CFA in West Virginia had to shut down because of a bomb threat, Violence is what the radical left always resorts to when they disagree with real Americans.. A bomb threat alll because the silent majority stood up for the 1st Amendment. The silent majority has had enough of progressives trying to destroy this country and will not sit idly by anymore. We're coming to take our country back.

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Janis C Sheridan

9:02 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

The fact that CFA has never been open on Sunday because the "family owned business" believes people should be free to worship if they choose, has never been a secret. Mr. Cathy does not discriminate in hiring nor serving anyone on any basis. I took my mother to Olive Garden quite a few years ago and there were two waiters setting the same table, rubbing butts and practically falling all over each other. Mom leaned over and said, "They must be gay." I just laughed and said, "You think?" It never entered my mind to complain to anyone, or to not return to Olive Garden. My only thought was that the over zealous PDA in front of customers is distasteful for ANY couple. I have a feeling that CFA's investors will be fine.

Dynamo47

6:38 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

I believe in the freedom of speech and am ex-military and would have died to defend that right.

I do not agree with same sex marriage but it is my right as an American to have that freedom to say so just as it is for those who support same sex marriage to do so.

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A.S.

7:19 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

I'm a Veteran of this Country and a Constitutionalist, and Chick-fil-A has every right to express their first amendment.

Secondly, christians DO NOT force their values on others. If you think that, you simply never went to church or picked up the bible and read it. Just because someone might not agree with gays having the "title" of being married, does NOT mean we hate gay people like the Media and far left are trying to portray.

Conservatives have gay family members as well, and this was never an issue until government got involved.

Let's not lose focus on the community organizer who has given us 5 trillion in deficit and counting!

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Golden Cockroach

7:59 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

The problem w/ Chick-fil-A is the same w/ smoking; it takes to long for these products to kill the people ingesting them.
Cathy has the right to say what he wants, but he is foolish to say what he did out loud. Make chicken & shut-up!

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Dot

8:30 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Hi, Golden. He was interviewed by a Baptist news organization, was specifically asked about his belief, and he stated his support for traditional marriage. It was not the case that he held a news conference to announce. It was the left and the gay community that blew this thing up. How do you feel about celebs and other public figures actually calling pressers to pontificate on their beliefs?

Dynamo47

8:00 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Thank you for your service AS and I agree with your post 100%

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Golden Cockroach

8:46 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Dot I think people--celebs who are dumb as rocks should keep their yap shut. That includes Cathy, his is foolish to say what he did. He has something in common w/ Tom Cruise.

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Dot

9:02 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Hi, Golden. Are you aware what the man actually said? There is nothing anti-gay in his statement. It is pro-traditional marriage as he believes it to be.

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$$ Default Deb

9:19 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Speaking of "dumb as rocks" I think that statement applies to people like me, integrity isn't one of my strong suits. I superimpose my comments onto this site as the Golden Cockroach, who's identity I have stolen. I am not to be trusted. I should take my own medicine and keep my "yap" shut but I'm not bright enough to know when to shut up.

http://goldencockroach.wordpress.com/

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Issue Driven

11:29 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

People who support _same sex marriage_ don't want an enterprise to use their profits to support a position they don't endorse. Those individuals have the ability to opt out by not supporting said business: HOWEVER; Christians/Catholics/Religious (who have protected freedoms outlined in the constitution) CANNOT opt out of the Health Care Regulations that support Morning After pill or aborta fascia drugs and or abortion funding. That is unjust. How about some fairness and justice here.

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Issue Driven

11:31 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Will the proponents of same sex marriage attack these individuals? They announced this information yesterday. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB5ECWgHXgs>;; Will they be protesting and kissing outside of african-american churches?

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Janis C Sheridan

12:20 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

This entire situation is crazy. My father was in the restaurant business and every year, he contributed the use of his banquet facility for the Red Cross to have a fundraiser. No one complained. So, what is the difference. Just because liberals believe in the Red Cross???? Every man and woman who owns a business has the right to support the organizations they want to. Why can't the August 3rd people just stand outside and picket...no more chicken or something. Aren't you the people who are fighting so hard for freedom and equality....or just YOUR freedom and equality.

Home Depot has openly donated a ton of money to support gay marriage. My choice was shop at Lowes instead. Use your freedoms wisely, because it looks as though they will be taken away by the goofy ultra libs who have no real agenda except to make the United States into exactly what they feel they want on any given day.

BTW, I am not anti-gay. Our neighborhood is partially made up of gay couples and one couple in particular, I love and respect . We can sit down and talk about our beliefs and we can respectfully agree to disagree. I actually love and respect them both. We can sit down and talk about our beliefs and we can respectfully disagree.

This is about freedom, people. STOP making everything a political statement. Live and let live...eat at Chic-fil-A if you wish or don't eat there. Shop at Home Depot or don't shop there.

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Dot

12:56 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

This will be about 3 comments long.Last evening, within my comment, I posted this:."...Beware of what will be shown in newspapers and the news tonight & tomorrow. No doubt there will be a good-sized picture of the 2 young ladies who set up on the corner with signs opposing CFA. Also, I don't know if Fox 29 did any interviews or filming earlier in the day, but as soon as the young ladies showed up, a camera guy and one with a microphone jumped out of the truck & filmed and talked to them... Everyone knew why they were there, and several had pocket Constitutions with them" Well, Fox 29 did exactly as I expected. See video: http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/19176062/hundreds-show-support-at-chick-fil-a-appreciation-day

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Janis C Sheridan

2:13 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

I'm sorry Dot. Your message escaped me. I did watch your link to Fox and could not really determine WHAT exactly you expected to see. We all knew the opinions and reasons those supporting CFA were there. Did it trouble you that Fox sought out the opinions of those disagreeing? Actually, that is what the news media is suppose to do.

Dot

1:00 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Part II: I sent an email to them this morning: I sent an email to them this morning: "Hello. I was at the Chick-Fil-A in Warrington yesterday from about 6:30 to 7:30 PM. I viewed the video of the coverage by Omari Fleming. It was biased and incomplete in regard to the purpose of the event, as well as the portrayal of the folks who were waiting to get into the establishment.
The Fox 29 truck was parked across the entry driveway from the CFA building. The report starts with the statement that people were there to support the owner's stance against same-sex marriage. I can not say how Mr. Fleming came to that conclusion, as he did not speak to anyone who was in the crowd at the building.
The video shows Mr. Fleming speaking to a man who expressed his views on same-sex marriage. That must have been before I arrived as I did not see that encounter. I noticed that it was a gentleman who was not in the crowd at the building, but somewhere on the periphery.
It was not until the 2 young ladies who were there to protest CFA arrived, that I saw Mr. Fleming and the cameraman got out of the truck. They immediately approached them. On the video, Mr. Fleming stated there were confrontations with the protesters, which was not true. Yes, there was another gentleman in the video who spoke directly to the young ladies. That gentleman however was not with the crowd.

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Dot

1:01 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Part III: "I question the sincerity and veracity of the reporting. Mr. Fleming did not come to the building at all to speak to anyone. No one from the crowd confronted the protesters. The conversation among the group centered on the right of free speech.
There was no mention of any opinions regarding same-sex marriage, only that the CEO had every right to say what he said. If the various Mayors of Boston, Chicago and San Francisco and the Councilman from Philly had not threatened the CEO and his livelihood, there would have been no event at all.
I watch Fox 29 on occasion, but with this type of biased, inaccurate, incomplete "reporting", I will minimize my viewing and encourage others to do the same".

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Janis C Sheridan

2:23 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

WOW....Dot. I stand by my previous comment. I am here with a friend whose political bent is much more liberal than mine. He also listened to the Fox news link and wonders if you were smoking something when you were watching it.

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Dot

4:44 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Janice, Thanks for telling me that you and your friend are liberals, but from your dismissive remarks, that was easy guess. From your comments, I assume that you did not read the entire series of 3 comments. The slant of the reporter was that this event was an anti-gay event, when in fact it was a show of support for an individual exercising ones 1st Amendment right. There was no commentary elicited from the participants, to set the record straight. Liberals usually deny that conservative issues and actions are skewed, dismissed and disparaged by the media. You deny that folks who are interviewed are selected for their ability to support the media's preconceived ideas. Editing is done in a way to further debase the issues and folks involved. I assume this is your mindset.

Michael J.

1:57 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

To me free speech is the only thing that matters in this whole mess. The ACLU is defending the KKK's right to free speech in an "adopt a highway" campaign. How should this be handled.

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Larry Legend's biggest fan!

5:46 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Golden, I always thought you were goofy. You might be, but I agree w/ you and your thoughts. Cathy is retarded for what he said. If he was into Howard Stern the people standing behind him would be calling for his head! Everyone is a fraud. incl. me & the Cockroach!

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Janis C Sheridan

5:54 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Ahhh Dot,
Thank you for your comment. I do now understand where you were coming from when you said you would not watch Fox News again and advise your friends. You, also, misunderstood me. I am very much a conservative. I have almost no liberal bent except that I do believe in peoples individual rights. But, my group of friends is very eclectic. I do believe that gays should have their own union with the ability to have couples' privileges...I just do not want them to change the traditional definition of marriage. That being said, I do watch FOX, MSNBC and CBS. It is my opinion that after watching MSNBC and CBS, I have been made very aware of the liberal point of view. I then turn on FOX and hear both sides of the same story. In the Fox clip you sited, my reaction was only that we all knew (we conservatives) knew why the mass was there. There didn't seem to be a need to interview participants (although later on the news it is obvious that they did). Having interviewed the lesbian couple was, in my opinion, in keeping with Fox's efforts to be fair and balanced.

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Dot

12:09 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

Hi, Janice. I see your confusion. For clarification, though, the video was from Fox 29, the local station and its news, not the FNC cable channel. I believe they needed to lay out the full parameters of the story. Yes, this story on FNC, would have needed less explanation of what the gist of the story was, and it would be important to show the other side. I watch the Fox News Channel, and it did a good job of coverage and discussion.
Just tonight, Bill O"Reilly had a good "Talking Points" segment that laid out the argument well. It's at this site: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/index.html#/v/1768571963001/a-big-victory-for-traditional-forces/?playlist_id=86923
I watch MSNBC and CNN also to get a feel for what is being said. Also, I subscribe to various web sites and facebook pages to keep an eye on happenings. Very interesting! My whole thing is we have a 1st Amendment right to free speech, and no private citizen should be threatened with loss of any kind due to stated beliefs.

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Janis C Sheridan

7:17 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

I am in TOTAL agreement with you! It amazes me that this is even happening. In fact, If I can work my schedule, I am going to have lunch at CFA today....even if I didn't enjoy the food! However, truth be told, I believe they are one of the best fast food chains out there. We are so close to a fascist govt that is is frightening. I could say more, but I won't :-(

Dot

10:20 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

It will be interesting to see how the protest goes today.I'll ignore this,as it is an attempt by gay activists to get folks to react in a negative way.I don't care what they do,but stand for Dan Cathy's right to say and do what he will.If no one bothers them,I believe there will be problems that are caused by activist groups.From what I observed in Warrington,I believe that at the least the guy who confronted the young ladies was a "plant".There were 2 young guys who had been standing at the corner of the property for a time talking on phones.When the protesters arrived, they went down to that area.After the gentleman confronted them,he and the 2 guys went across the driveway and hung out.Very suspicious!I've seen this on several occasions at events in DC.The "opposition" (whoever they may be) stages an argument between a person pretending to be with the group and someone opposing their views. During the encounter, there is someone recording the whole thing. Eventually, the confrontation turns into a display by the "plant/imposter/infiltrator" that makes the group appear like idiots.This in turn gets put on youtube to try to perpetuate some kind of negative stereotype.Once there was such an encounter and I started folks chanting,"If you're not an infiltrator, step away". Interestingly, the only ones left were the 2 guys hollering and the recording guy. With that, they all left. The tactics of the left are very interesting, maddening, predictable and pretty hateful at times.

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Issue Driven

10:50 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

Hate Speech proponents try to stifle debate and rewrite history through omission.
<http://www.armenianweekly.com/2012/01/23/breaking-news-french-senate-passes-bill-criminalizing-armenian-genocide-denial/>;. If you _deny_ the Armenian Genocide occurred you can be convicted of "hate speech; BUT; if you say that the Turkish _committed_ that Genocide; that is "hate speech" as it insults "Turkishness". So, you just don't say anything as not to offend. Put another way... it would be akin to stating that the Holocaust didn't occur; that is "Hate Speech" , but if you say that the Germans at the time committed the atrocities; that is "Hate Speech". So how do you discuss a topic?

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Issue Driven

11:06 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

I would hasten to add that the Mayors involvement here makes me wonder... What ever happened to the Left's love of the Separation of Church and State? Now because THEY disagree with a religious tenet held by a private citizen OR a private business they feel that they can impose THEIR (The States) value and belief on them by BULLYING. In this case the "State" includes - The Chicago Values? The Boston Values and the San Fransisco Values? The juice flows both ways in this conduit, doesn't it? Also find it curious that Rahm Emmanual- the mayor of Chicago was the White House Chief of Staff until a year ago or so; But President Obama didn't "evolve" his position on this matter until 3 months ago. Would President Obama have been welcome in Chicago because his public opinion was basically the same as Dan Cathy's? Or is it that we now have to believe what the President believes?

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Dot

11:49 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

I really think this needs to be about freedom of speech, not same-sex marriage. However, did you see the video of the Coalition of African-American Pastors' statement? See here: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/31/black-pastors-group-launches-anti-obama-campaign-around-gay-marriage/

Janis C Sheridan

11:22 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

Dot and Issue Driven, you are both correct. Earlier this morning, I found myself thinking about Hitler....same goal, different tactics. Kill off individual freedoms that do not coincide with yours. It is amazing that the left can't see themselves as they really are. It is not that they believe in what they are saying, but it is the anger and hateful ways in which they display their opposition. Issue Driven, do you honestly believe that Obama's earlier position was real???? He only espouses what the voters with whom he is talking wish to hear. It's all about being reelected. It is becoming more and more obvious that he wants to strip the entire nation of their individual rights so as to return us to the original state from which we fought for independence.

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Dot

11:44 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

Silencing dissent is dangerous for us all. There are factions that do not understand that. Immediate gratification of ideological feelings is the goal. There is no recognition of the consequences down the road. Just look at some of the provisions of the laws enacted in the past 3.5 years. Get it done! Rush it through! Unintended consequences have and will continue to rear their ugly heads again and again. There is a puppeteer pulling the strings. Go this way...go that... Who is it?

Stephanie Loeb

11:34 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

This is ridiculous...what's next, Philly kicks out the Catholic Church?

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Janis C Sheridan

11:52 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

Believe me, Stephanie, it would make them quite happy if it were that easy. But you see already how they are forcing the Catholic institutions to go against what their beliefs are. I was born and raised a Roman Catholic. I am not one who wears religion on my shirtsleeve, but I am resenting so much what Christians have been having to put up with. Art in a public institution depicting the Blessed Mother with urine and feces all over it is just one example. But honestly, burn the Koran and the President along with his liberal cronies have to step in. Nancy Pelosi, she is the worst...., "...I was born and raised a Catholic and to my knowledge, the pope has never taken a stand on abortion..." If I hadn't heard it with my own ears, I would never have believed it. But this isn't a religious thing, I was just trying to show what lying, double standard and hypocritical people we have "serving" "we the people.".

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Truth

3:02 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

What ever happened to separation of church and state? While I agree that gay marriage should be allowed as a legal construct... a religious one is another story, that should be up to the church and have nothing to do with law. But It is well within Mr Cathy's rights to hold to his religious convictions. I am willing to bet that most of you who are rallying and boycotting chick-fil-a because of his religious beliefs have at one time or another patronized a church (private Catholic/Christian education, church collection plate, church bazaar, carnival etc) which is quite a large institution in favor of similar traditional beliefs (marriage between a man and a woman) and who would be quick to echo the sentiments of Mr Cathy. Hypocrites? It is no surprise that Chick-fil-a is run by a religious family, they have never been open on Sundays, it is pretty much public knowledge. Why is everyone so shocked that Mr Cathy is in opposition to gay marriage? I wonder how many of you outraged protesters of chic-fil-a have kids that go to catholic school, or do you only believe in this cause when its not a real sacrifice and you can feel like you "did something". If you don't like it, don't eat there. This is ridiculous.

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Issue Driven

4:16 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

By The Way.... DOMA (The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) (Pub.L. 104-199, 110 Stat. 2419, enacted September 21, 1996, 1 U.S.C. § 7 and 28 U.S.C. § 1738C) is a United States federal law that defines marriage as the legal union of one man and one woman. The law passed both houses of Congress by large majorities and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on September 21, 1996.) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act>; It was supported until President Obama unilaterally _decided_ it was unconstitutional and had his justice department stop enforcing it. <http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260494/breaking-obama-administration-declares-doma-unconstitutional-wont-defend-it-court-dani>; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BUT if you want to hear a nice reasoned debate on the central issue please follow this link to a Dennis Prager debating Perez HIlton on Larry King. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTE9zWaQc_Y>;

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Tom Bartman

6:05 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

Thank you liberals and progressives for making Chick Fil A a great success on Wednesday. The record sales could not have happened with you all! Because of your sick and twisted views, Chick Fil A will continue to thrive. Thanks again!

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