So, You're Having A Problem With Voter Fraud?

What are some ways to fix the election process?

An election year is always a great year for Americans. It is your chance to choose the guy (or in about 200 years, a girl) who is going to be both praised and blaimed for things that may be out of their control. To many, the government is a large, shadowy institution where the common man gets stepped on. To many others, it is the place where we can make dreams come alive and help one another. But to everyone, your voice only seems to matter on Election Day.

Recently, Pennsylvania passed a Voter ID Law that now requires you to bring official proof that you are who you are as a voter, claimed to help stop the age old problem of voter fraud. However, many people and websites have pointed out that Pennsylvania has never had a problem with voter fraud, and even the Keystone State admitted that we have never had voter fraud happen before.

Okay, what? Nevermind, that's a different subject.

I understand the rationale--we don't want our election rigged, and we don't want people who shouldn't vote (illegal immigrants, felons, zombies) walk into the booth and vote. But stopping people at the booth is almost closing the barn door just when the horse runs out. They conned you once, what makes you think that they can't do it twice?

The saying goes, if you wanna kill a zombie, you aim for the head (I don't think anyone has said that before, but if you wanna quote me, you are more than welcome).

Voter Registration really spiked after the passage of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (a.k.a. the Motor Voter Act), which allows for an individual to apply to vote when applying for a drivers licence or social services. That in itself isn't a problem, since if you're going to commit fraud on social services or against the DMV, voter fraud isn't the biggest fish to fry. This Act also allows individuals to apply via mail-in forms, which is one I recently filled out when I turned 18. This, in my opinion, is much easier to commit fraud on, since you spend five minutes filling out a form (I did!), then you seal it properly and mail it off.

Now, if it's easy to fradulently sign up to vote, you would think that PA's Voter ID Bill would be a godsend for this "problem", except Mike Turazi said it's going to be used to get Romney elected. And with many voters concerned that it may disenfranchise other voters, or make it harder for elderly people to vote (like it needs to be any harder), this could spell a problem for voting in 2012.

Have you ever voted in Oregon? Now, I'm going to answer what that has to do with anything in a second, but have you? No? Probably not, since you would be telling everybody how easy it is to vote with their mail-in ballots and such. How would that help with voter fraud? Think about it; if you make it easier to vote for some people (many have suggested moving the voting day to a Saturday), the rationale for fraud would shrink. Also, most voter fraud does involve fake addresses, so you can't get your ballot with a fake address, and if someone has a discrepency with their ballot or registeration, you could throw out the vote. Or if you want to go extreme, we could turn into Switzerland, where you don't register to vote (that's a right of a citizen), but you get mailed the ballot, and list of proposed bills and who is being elected. Remember, Switzerland is not only smaller, but a direct democracy, so it's easier for them.

Here are some ways to fix our little problem; voter fraud. Or you could always do what my mother has always taught me: if it isn't broke, don't fix it.

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Mike Shortall Sr August 07, 2012 at 02:37 PM
1. The State never said "We have never had voter fraud happen before." What the State did say is that there “ ... have been no investigations or prosecutions of in-person voter fraud in Pennsylvania; and the parties do not have direct personal knowledge of any such investigations or prosecutions in other states.” There's a BIG difference between saying it never happened and it was never investigated and prosecuted. If voting fraud had been conducted (as many believe it has) and done "smartly", then it would not be found or reported. If it's not found or reported, then it's not "investigated or prosecuted"! If voter fraud was committed - let's say - in North Philadelphia or WIlliamsport, who exactly would be in a position to detect and report it? And if it's the majority party, do you really believe they would??? If you do, I have this bridge in Horsham I'd like to sell you. 2. No one with half a brain is going to REGISTER fraudulently, the penalties are severe and it leaves an easy to trace paper trail. People are going to cheat at the easiest, less risky opportunity ... at the polls, where it's less likely to be noticed (How many poll watchers recognize everyone who votes in their precinct?) and even less likely to be traced. I like the idea of on-line voting, but even that would cause problems for the very same people who it is suggested could be "disenfranchised" by voter IDs. Voting by snail mail in this day and age would be a nightmare, in my opinion..
patrick August 08, 2012 at 03:45 AM
Mike, how about doing it Iraqy style, dying voters fingers blue, or red, or better yet purple(there's no political affiliation with that color).
Joseph Finnick August 14, 2012 at 01:23 PM
Voter registration fraud is ten times more common than voter impersonation. The ACORN scandal was voter registration fraud and some people love to demonstrate that as the need for the ID law (which makes no sense). Florida also thinks that illegal immigrants have registered to vote (would be fraud). I agree that this is silly, however, because that would be an absurd risk for an illegal immigrant to take (deportation of you and maybe your family just to cast one vote). Your argument, however, for not wanting to fraudulently register is the reason why people don't impersonate others at the polls. The risk (years in jail and a large fine) outweighs the benefit (a single vote cast in your favor). Real fraud would not be solved on this level. If you want to fix it you need more oversight at the polling places and by the people who run the elections because there have been certainly cases throughout the United States of this type of fraud.
Candy Allebach August 17, 2012 at 03:28 AM
I have been voting for 40 years and why all of the sudden is voter fraud a problem in THIS election year???
Re Re Retard September 21, 2012 at 01:09 AM
Mike Short n'all & tommy Fartman; I've read are hanging around grade schools!!! What do you think about them? It makes me SICK!!!!! Bad Fartman!!!!!
Mike October 30, 2012 at 03:30 PM
So much attention to the non-existent voter impersonation fraud and none paid to the problem of electronic voting machines with no paper -verified record. Our electronic voting system is ripe for fraud and abuse and an election can easily be stolen. There have been many studies so far on our electronic voting machines and the ease with which they can be hacked. This is where our attention should be.


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